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Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:58 pm
by Jake
Daniel wrote:FormerNavy wrote:Daniel wrote:It's at the top of the list to get some kind of fix on this.
Do you think this will be possible with the current makeup of the Ohio House?
Yes, I do. Of course, I also think it is possible the Browns will win the Super Bowl next year.
Great......we're DOOMED!
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:19 pm
by tjeffries
Great......we're DOOMED!
Thanks Jake, now what works best to clean these new LCD monitors

Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:39 am
by MeanStreaker
When talking to others, I'm real big on the terms that I use.
So, when we're calling our representatives and writing Letters to the Editor (we're all doing that, right?

) it's my personal opinion that we'll have greater success if we substitute "getting Restaurant Carry" with something like "repeal the ban on self-defense while dining".
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:35 am
by carmen fovozzo
MeanStreaker wrote:When talking to others, I'm real big on the terms that I use.
So, when we're calling our representatives and writing Letters to the Editor (we're all doing that, right?

) it's my personal opinion that we'll have greater success if we substitute "getting Restaurant Carry" with something like "repeal the ban on self-defense while dining".
..............I LIKE THAT.
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:29 pm
by Cyclimus
I think we have our buzz phrase now to hit up Columbus with: Repeal the ban on self-defense in restaurants! I expect a hundred thousand letters to Columbus in the mail today (hopefully). Can you imagine how quickly a bill like that would get passed with that kind of mobilization?
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:00 pm
by Cyclimus
Just thought I'd update everyone that I just got back from a land well-versed in freedom and Constitutional rights (aka Virginia). I must admit that I didn't see ONE single no-gun sign, and open as well as concealed carry was a total breeze (and I was in Richmond!). I even patronized a number of local watering holes where not only did my open carry self not set off any alarms, no SWAT raids, or anything of the sort, but also earned me free nonalcoholic beverages as it was assumed that I was the DD! I love the South!
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:39 pm
by USN HM3
There are several items to consider when thinking of settling on a 50% law. You and I may look at it and decide that an establishment such as BW3 which someone else already used as an example and say they make at least 50% of their revenue from food and therefore we would be able to carry there assuming such an amendment were passed. The problem is what if you are sitting in the bar area, or what if the AG, LEO, or DA decides that they make more than 50% on alcohol sales. And what constitutes 50% sales? Is it net sales, or net profit. Please keep in mind restaurants make a lot of money from alcohol sales. The only compromise that should be made would be a no consumption law. I personally believe that if I decide I want to have a beer after a long day and I am carrying for the purpose of self defense I should be able to do both as long as I break no law. That said I would never drink and then go to the gun club or hunting. I condone no one who will go out drinking and then purposely go out shooting (gun club, hunting, etc.) There are other states one of which I recently moved from that have it right and do not have any laws prohibiting carry in bars, restaurants, etc.
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:47 pm
by McM
I am originally from PA. When we dine in the home state, I often will have a beer with dinner, or a drink before dinner. Oddly enough my Glock 23 has never jumped out of its holster and shot a restaurant to pieces.
I just can't figure it out. Ohio must make guns act up.

Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:52 pm
by color of law
McM wrote:I am originally from PA. When we dine in the home state, I often will have a beer with dinner, or a drink before dinner. Oddly enough my Glock 23 has never jumped out of its holster and shot a restaurant to pieces.
I just can't figure it out. Ohio must make guns act up.

We are not concerned with the Glock shooting up the restaurant. We just don't want the Glock shooting up the patrons.
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:59 pm
by pws
Don't see the problem, if you can legally drive a potentially deadly weapon, you should be able to eat/drink with one; abiding by the same guidelines
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:08 am
by willbird
pws wrote:Don't see the problem, if you can legally drive a potentially deadly weapon, you should be able to eat/drink with one; abiding by the same guidelines
Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??
Bill
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:10 am
by jabeatty
willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??

Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:39 pm
by evan price
jabeatty wrote:willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??

Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...
Or they might be those extra-deadlier hollow points, rounds so dangerous they are banned in warfare by Geneva Convention..

Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:40 pm
by jabeatty
evan price wrote:jabeatty wrote:willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??

Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...
Or they might be those extra-deadlier hollow points, rounds so dangerous they are banned in warfare by Geneva Convention..

Would the hollow-points be filled with garlic?
Re: Restaurant Carry
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:49 pm
by evan price
jabeatty wrote:Would the hollow-points be filled with garlic?
Only at the better Italian restaurants. The really nice ones they are filled with a blend of garlic and parmesan cheese, sauteed onions, and a light marinara sauce. Served with a side of linguini.