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Constitutional Carry Bill

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I just emailed Gov. DeWine and asked him when he's going to sign the CC bill!

I urge everyone to do the same! Flood his email with this!!

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Did he get a bill yet?
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AzRanger wrote:I just emailed Gov. DeWine and asked him when he's going to sign the CC bill!

I urge everyone to do the same! Flood his email with this!!
He doesn't have a bill to sign yet - the House passed one bill, the Senate passed a *different* bill with different wording. For a bill to proceed to the Governor they must be the same bill with the same language passed by both the House and Senate.

The next thing that needs to happen is the Senate must passs the House bill, or the House pass the Senate bill - if one of those happens without any changes to the wording *then* a bill can go to DeWine.
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Anyone have any insight on how likely one or the other may happen and if so, how soon? Anything we can do to help it move along?
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Any news on the progress of this bill? I will probably still get my CHL, for out of state travel.
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MarkTC01 wrote:Any news on the progress of this bill? I will probably still get my CHL, for out of state travel.
No change, we are still waiting for them to move one of the two different bills through the other chamber. Not sure when they might pick this back up - I had hoped they would get one bill through both chambers and on DeWine's desk before the primary, but that's looking less and less likely.
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I don't even know if it's a valid issue, but sure seems enough of a concern to me. Does anyone know if OGA (R) considered this? Re: the last few postings with the legal wrangle-explanation...

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WhyNot wrote:I don't even know if it's a valid issue, but sure seems enough of a concern to me. Does anyone know if OGA (R) considered this? Re: the last few postings with the legal wrangle-explanation...

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Thank you :)
They've been made aware of the issue, and a suggested amendment (pretty simple) to fix the issue. We'll see what happens when they take it back up.
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Okay so it passed but now DeWine has yet to sign it. I've heard that he has until Wednesday and if he doesn't sign it it'll go into effect anyway. I've heard also it's veto proof.

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AzRanger wrote:Okay so it passed but now DeWine has yet to sign it. I've heard that he has until Wednesday and if he doesn't sign it it'll go into effect anyway. I've heard also it's veto proof.

ANYONE???
In Ohio, when a bill passes both the House and Senate, the Governor has 10 days not counting Sundays from when he receives the bill to either sign or veto it. If he does neither, the bill becomes law without his signature.

The bill did not pass with a veto proof majority. In Ohio to override a veto takes 3/5 majority of the seats each in both the House and Senate. The bill did not pass with 3/5 (60 votes) in the House - there were, however, a half-dozen or so reps that did not vote. I do not know how many were pro-constitutional carry, if any, that did not vote for whatever reason.

On a similar note, unlike how it may work elsewhere there is technically no "veto-proof" majority in that a veto override is automatic. They must still hold a vote to override, and sometimes those that vote for a bill are unwilling to vote to override.
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AzRanger wrote:Okay so it passed but now DeWine has yet to sign it.
In my book, it did not pass because what passed is not constitutional carry. It is more like CHL Lite with a sprinkle of no gotcha notification requirement.
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kcclark wrote:
AzRanger wrote:Okay so it passed but now DeWine has yet to sign it.
In my book, it did not pass because what passed is not constitutional carry. It is more like CHL Lite with a sprinkle of no gotcha notification requirement.
The original bill proposed was also not Constitutional Carry. It was Unlicensed Carry, and what passed was Unlicensed Carry Lite. Still a step forward, and I hope it becomes law all the same.
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Well he signed it today! Best thing about the bill you don’t have to notify law-enforcement when being pulled over. But I fast you have to answer truthfully. Did not see when it went goes into effect.
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iam1096 wrote:Well he signed it today! Best thing about the bill you don’t have to notify law-enforcement when being pulled over. But I fast you have to answer truthfully. Did not see when it went goes into effect.
Wouldn't requiring a truthful answer run afoul of that pesky Fifth Amendment ?
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