Shooting death and injury on Alec Baldwin movie set.

[catfish86]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/a ... e-shooting

So Alec Baldwin is in Vermont...probably scouting border crossings and flights from Canada to France.

[Brian D.]

So Alec Baldwin is in Vermont...probably scouting border crossings and flights from Canada to France.

Guess the sheriff in Santa Fe didn't give Baldwin the old "Don't leave town" speech.

[TSiWRX]

^ Hollywood royalty privileges......

[catfish86]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/a ... t-shooting Baldwin speaks. Everybody is upset. This is a "one in a trillion" accident...When one violates almost all the safety rules I find that hard to believe.

[TSiWRX]

I know that this event wasn't about blanks or blank-shooting guns, but I did find this video very interesting. I never knew there was so much going on!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOUrRTf6jg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ From the Forgotten Weapons YouTube Channel, interview with Charlie Taylor, the man behind Movie Armaments Group.

[catfish86]

One thing I saw pointed out on Fox News about this. The pistol is a Colt Single Action Army Ubertie replica. Being single action, that means Baldwin had to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger. Considering they were supposedly trying to line up the camera angles, the negligence involved in discharging this firearm goes up. This speaks to a level of ignorance in handling this firearm to argue against any sympathy for Baldwin.

[M-Quigley]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/a ... t-shooting Baldwin speaks. Everybody is upset. This is a "one in a trillion" accident...When one violates almost all the safety rules I find that hard to believe.

Correction, he violated all of the safety rules.

[EricTheBald]

One thing I saw pointed out on Fox News about this. The pistol is a Colt Single Action Army Ubertie replica.

Where did you find that?

I've been trying to track that info down since last week and I've had little luck in doing so.

[TSiWRX]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/governmen ... 021-10-27/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Via Reuters, Sheriff Mendoza was quoted that the weapon was a "Pietta Long Colt revolver." It's then been taken by some to mean that it's one of their SAA clones.

I'm not very well versed in revolvers to begin with, and considerably less-so where it comes to the Western-style wheelguns, so I don't know what to make of the above, as a peek at their online catalog shows quite a number of different styles. I lack the knowledge to discern if all of their .45 Long Colt chambering are Colt SAA clones, or if there are other, more subtle differences at-play.

[Brian D.]

Some Italian companies have been making single action clones since at least the beginning of the "spaghetti western" movie era. When cowboy action shooting started, things ramped up considerably. Most are copies of the Colt Peacemaker, but the old Remington 1875/1890, S&W Schofield, and others have been made too.

[Brian D.]

Adding to that, the factories there have merged, and other brands came along over there. Not being in the firearms business, I long ago lost track of who makes what these days.

[M-Quigley]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/governmen ... 021-10-27/

Via Reuters, Sheriff Mendoza was quoted that the weapon was a "Pietta Long Colt revolver." It's then been taken by some to mean that it's one of their SAA clones.

I'm not very well versed in revolvers to begin with, and considerably less-so where it comes to the Western-style wheelguns, so I don't know what to make of the above, as a peek at their online catalog shows quite a number of different styles. I lack the knowledge to discern if all of their .45 Long Colt chambering are Colt SAA clones, or if there are other, more subtle differences at-play.

From the link:

Gutierrez, whose job is formally called the film crew's armorer, said ammunition was not secured on the set during a lunch break before the shooting, the affidavit showed. It quoted her as saying that firearms were secured inside a safe during the break and that no live ammunition is ever kept on a movie set.

"Only a few people" had access to the safe and knew the combination to open it, Gutierrez said, according to the affidavit.

If true that's very concerning from a chain of custody standpoint.

[Javelin Man]

"I didndo it!"

Alec had an interview with George Stephanopolous in which he stated he did not pull the trigger. I'd like to know how the gun discharged then as would the attorneys. The interview is to show today.

[Brian D.]

You can get an online preview, and parts have been leaked out as well. Supposedly Baldwin was holding the gun, the hammer wasn't cocked, he didn't pull the trigger, and he didn't drop the gun before the discharge happened.

Those four things CANNOT all be true.

[M-Quigley]

So Baldwin is claiming this NOW? Why didn't he mention this in the beginning?

Here is something that may explain where the live rounds might've come from.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 814080002/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;