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Not directly firearms related until it is.. Bears watching and talking to people about this. If this were in place in all states we would be talking about President Clinton now..

from the comments: So, even though Clinton LOST Ohio by 450,000 votes, the PD and Ohio libs believe she should get the electoral votes.

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Ohio—A proposed Ohio constitutional amendment to award the state’s presidential electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote has cleared an initial hurdle toward making the statewide ballot this November.

A summary of the proposed amendment was certified by Attorney General Dave Yost on Monday as a “fair and truthful statement of the proposed law,” though Yost didn’t weigh in on whether he supported or opposed the measure.

The proposed amendment now heads to the Ohio Ballot Board, which has 10 days to decide whether the submitted ballot language only contains one proposed constitutional amendment. If the board decides it does, supporters would then have until July 3 to collect 442,958 valid signatures from registered voters in at least 44 of Ohio’s 88 counties.
The proposed amendment is also opposed by the California-based group National Popular Vote, which is also seeking to create a binding national popular vote, but in a different way – a National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, under which individual states pledge to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the national vote.

“We are focused on efforts to get state legislatures to pass legislation to enact the National Popular Vote interstate compact,” said John Koza, chair of National Popular Vote, in an email.

So far, 11 states holding a combined 181 electoral votes have signed the compact. However, the compact doesn’t become binding until it’s joined by states representing at least 270 electoral votes (the minimum needed to win the presidency).
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What a bunch of traitorous, unconstitutional bs.
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Yes this ^^.

This is knowing the difference between split beans and coffee; apple butter from cow patties FRESH.

Ultimately what they want is, 5-6-8-10 cities across the entire nation to ''decide'' the new King, er, President. All champagne campaigning would gravitate and right quick to , large cities.
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This movement is a direct attack against democracy as we now know it. If successful it will be a gigantic step towards the socialization of America.
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This is one good illustration of why Amending the State Constitution by ballot is a very dangerous thing.

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No, this is not an attack on democracy, this IS democracy. It IS a direct attack on our constitutional, representative republic.
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WY_Not wrote:...It IS a direct attack on our constitutional, representative republic.
This needs repeated until it sinks in.
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Electoral College prevents Florida 2000 from going national. How exactly would a nationwide recount work?
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willbird wrote:This is one good illustration of why Amending the State Constitution by ballot is a very dangerous thing.
Just amazes me that a simple majority of voters is required to amend Ohio's constitution. I'd love to go back in time and show the people who came up with that plan what our constitution looks like now. And I'd lead with the casinos.
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Don't forget the smoking nonsense.
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Aesinsp wrote:
WY_Not wrote:...It IS a direct attack on our constitutional, representative republic.
This needs repeated until it sinks in.
Well said by both of you....well, except the missing “to be” grammatically-speaking. But this is the key here.
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Mr. Morris doesn't say anything in this video that we already know. I posted it so you can send it to any fence-sitters who might not take the time to read about the problems of nullifying the Electoral College.

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willbird wrote:This is one good illustration of why Amending the State Constitution by ballot is a very dangerous thing.

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I've taken a popular vote of myself and I agree with this opinion 110% (I ate a Chicago-style pizza, and my stomach voted 3 times).
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kcclark wrote:
willbird wrote:This is one good illustration of why Amending the State Constitution by ballot is a very dangerous thing.
Just amazes me that a simple majority of voters is required to amend Ohio's constitution. I'd love to go back in time and show the people who came up with that plan what our constitution looks like now. And I'd lead with the casinos.
Perhaps there should be a ballot initiative to amend the constitution to require a two thirds or three quarters majority to pass a ballot initiative to amend the constitution. :)
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Or even just half of all REGISTERED voters rather than half of those who got out and actually voted.
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kcclark wrote:
willbird wrote:This is one good illustration of why Amending the State Constitution by ballot is a very dangerous thing.
Just amazes me that a simple majority of voters is required to amend Ohio's constitution. I'd love to go back in time and show the people who came up with that plan what our constitution looks like now. And I'd lead with the casinos.
Perhaps there should be a ballot initiative to amend the constitution to require a two thirds or three quarters majority to pass a ballot initiative to amend the constitution. :)
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