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Myths about magazines

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:35 am
by ApexShootingTactics
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There is a myth that keeping your magazines loaded wears out the springs. This is simply not true and the easy explanation is if you take a paper clip and bend it once it is still good to go but if you continue to bend it back and forth sooner or later it will weaken and eventually break. That explanation is not 100% accurate but the relation is constant working of a spring is what wears it out. That constant compression and decompression of the spring is what weakens it.
What I find with AR style mags is they have a slight twist to them when they are new and as they are used and abused they lose that twist and the tension becomes weaker. When removed from the magazine body the weaker spring lays more flat and is longer but the metal is fatigued. The less used or new mags are a bit shorter because of that twist and the metal is not fatigued.

Not all springs wear the same and the two photos are an example of that. The first photo is of (3) 30 round Magpul Pmags. The Pmag on the far left was loaded with 28rds for over two years, the middle Pmag is a range mag and has hundreds of compressions and decompressions, the Pmag on the far right has never been used. You can see the middle mag is the longest but when the magazine is fully assembled it is noticeably weaker but still functions. The magazines on each end are almost the same length and still have that twist, there is almost no difference in the new mag and the one that was loaded for over 2 years.
Now pistol magazines tend to compress as they weaken as the second photo shows. The photo is of (2) Kahr CW9 8round magazines. The one on the left was carried loaded for over two years and used at the range on almost a weekly basis. This magazine has hundreds if not close to 1000 compression and decompressions. The mag on the right is brand new and is approximately 1 inch longer. The used magazine still functions but I have retired to training use only.
What I want you to understand is that magazines are like the tires on your car. They are going to wear out over time and use. An unloaded magazine is worthless so budget for magazines. If they are constantly being used a good rule of thumb is to retire them to training use at certain point. So don't believe the myth, keep those mags loaded!

Re: Myths about magazines

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:04 am
by JU-87
Very informative. Thank you for posting.

Re: Myths about magazines

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:33 am
by walnut red
Around 1980 my new father in law, upon learning is was interested in firearms, went to his closet returned with a 1911A1 he said he brought home from WW2. He then asked if I would like to shoot the pistol, which I of course agreed, We went out back and he handed me a couple loaded magazines, which I fired. Picking up a fired casing I commented on the 1943 head stamp and he said, "Well, I loaded those magazines in 1945." The first magazine had a jamb, which we attributed to a dry slide. After a couple drops of oil on the rails everything functioned fine.

Re: Myths about magazines

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:09 pm
by JEaton
Back about 15 years ago, one of the instructors at TDI who worked for AK Steel did a very detailed analysis of what happens to springs down to the microscopic level.

Found just what you said, what wears out springs is use, not compression as that is what they are designed for. He gave this analogy, Do you worry about the springs in your car suspension or valve train being compressed all the time? No because that is what they are made to do.

So load them up and keep them loaded until you invite me over to help unload them :)

JLE

Re: Myths about magazines

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:18 pm
by TSiWRX
JEaton wrote:He gave this analogy, Do you worry about the springs in your car suspension or valve train being compressed all the time? No because that is what they are made to do.
Exactly. :)

I only worry about those springs as I'm using them. Unfortunately, they can't just sit there un-used on my daily-driver! :P :oops: :lol: