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The unloaded firearm and loaded magazines can be accessible without leaving the vehicle, as long as they are both stored in separate closed containers, as pirateguy191 mentioned.FormerNavy wrote:Can a non-licensee transport loaded magazines as long as they are not accessible without leaving the vehicle and not inserted into the accompanying firearm?
Or main compartment of range bag and outer pockets, as long as both close with a fastener of some kind (zipper, velcro, etc.)pirateguy191 wrote:Yes, the unloaded firearm and loaded mags can also be in two separate closed containers. Think glove box and center console.
I'll let someone else tempt the fates with that one. Of course, since I have a CHL it doesn't really matter.pirateguy191 wrote:Or, two Ziplock baggies..............according to some.
You can also stop an electric fan by sticking your finger into the blades.pirateguy191 wrote:Or, two Ziplock baggies..............according to some.
Yep. I do it all the time.Werz wrote:You can also stop an electric fan by sticking your finger into the blades.pirateguy191 wrote:Or, two Ziplock baggies..............according to some.
You also have the right to hold your handgun with your finger on the trigger. But why do something stupid?Chuck wrote:Well, you can follow the law but a cop MIGHT see you and think the law ought to be changed and tell his Sargent and union and THEY might want the law changed and ask some anti gun legislator to introduce a bill to change the law that we lobbied for in the first place.
According to certain county prosecutors on this forum, not all rights should be exercised
Holding your finger on the trigger is a potential safety issue. I'm not sure how this relates to the vehicle transport question, since none of the above examples of transport sound unsafe in any way.Werz wrote:You also have the right to hold your handgun with your finger on the trigger. But why do something stupid?Chuck wrote:Well, you can follow the law but a cop MIGHT see you and think the law ought to be changed and tell his Sargent and union and THEY might want the law changed and ask some anti gun legislator to introduce a bill to change the law that we lobbied for in the first place.
According to certain county prosecutors on this forum, not all rights should be exercised
I think the point is that it could be legally and or economically unsafe to push the limits of legal interpretation. Even if you are ultimately successful in court, your wallet may still take a hit. But I could be wrong...M-Quigley wrote:Holding your finger on the trigger is a potential safety issue. I'm not sure how this relates to the vehicle transport question, since none of the above examples of transport sound unsafe in any way.Werz wrote:You also have the right to hold your handgun with your finger on the trigger. But why do something stupid?Chuck wrote:Well, you can follow the law but a cop MIGHT see you and think the law ought to be changed and tell his Sargent and union and THEY might want the law changed and ask some anti gun legislator to introduce a bill to change the law that we lobbied for in the first place.
According to certain county prosecutors on this forum, not all rights should be exercised
I get that point, I just didn't think taking something that is a pretty universally accepted safety issue is comparable to a potential legal issue of transport in a vehicle, particularly when different cops might reach different conclusions.Klingon00 wrote:I think the point is that it could be legally and or economically unsafe to push the limits of legal interpretation. Even if you are ultimately successful in court, your wallet may still take a hit. But I could be wrong...
Stupid is stupid. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You accept the risks. But don't encourage others to participate.M-Quigley wrote:I get that point, I just didn't think taking something that is a pretty universally accepted safety issue is comparable to a potential legal issue of transport in a vehicle, particularly when different cops might reach different conclusions.Klingon00 wrote:I think the point is that it could be legally and or economically unsafe to push the limits of legal interpretation. Even if you are ultimately successful in court, your wallet may still take a hit. But I could be wrong...
Following the law is "stupid" now?Werz wrote:You also have the right to hold your handgun with your finger on the trigger. But why do something stupid?Chuck wrote:Well, you can follow the law but a cop MIGHT see you and think the law ought to be changed and tell his Sargent and union and THEY might want the law changed and ask some anti gun legislator to introduce a bill to change the law that we lobbied for in the first place.
According to certain county prosecutors on this forum, not all rights should be exercised
A transparent ziplock sandwich bag is not, by any rational definition, "[a] package, box, or case *** that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents[.]" R.C. 2923.16(K)(5)(b). You can play that stupid little game of creative definitions if you want, and you will bear the risk. Recommending it to others, particularly those who are uninformed and looking for legal advice, is downright irresponsible, particularly when a proper gun rug can be purchased for under ten dollars.Chuck wrote:Following the law is "stupid" now?Werz wrote:You also have the right to hold your handgun with your finger on the trigger. But why do something stupid?