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Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:59 pm
by Bama.45
Ok folks lol don't hate me but I have another revolver question... I have a person offering a trade for my S&W 19-4 for a Dan Wesson 15-2... Anyone have any experience with these?.. Would it be a fair even trade?
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:13 pm
by Javelin Man
My experience is the DW would be more accurate and shoot better than the SW. The trigger might not be quite as good. If I had the two side by side on the table and told to shoot targets in front of me, I'd grab the Dan Wesson. I've done some shooting with my DW's that would (and has) baffled people. Brother put a tin can in a tree at 35 yards and twin brother tried a dozen times with his .22 rifle. I picked up one cartridge and put it in my .357, took careful aim and destroyed the can.
That said, the value of the two are very different. Some books have the DW valued about $300-$400 and your SW much higher, $600. Some of the finishes are a little strange on the DW's while the S&W's are very consistent.
Take this advice or lack thereof for what it's worth.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:33 pm
by Bama.45
Javelin Man wrote:My experience is the DW would be more accurate and shoot better than the SW. The trigger might not be quite as good. If I had the two side by side on the table and told to shoot targets in front of me, I'd grab the Dan Wesson. I've done some shooting with my DW's that would (and has) baffled people. Brother put a tin can in a tree at 35 yards and twin brother tried a dozen times with his .22 rifle. I picked up one cartridge and put it in my .357, took careful aim and destroyed the can.
That said, the value of the two are very different. Some books have the DW valued about $300-$400 and your SW much higher, $600. Some of the finishes are a little strange on the DW's while the S&W's are very consistent.
Take this advice or lack thereof for what it's worth.
Thanks for the info Javelin Man... So I need to try to get a little cash or other stuff to even the value of the trade out.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:25 pm
by Sevens
Apologies is right! Shame on you for making us talk *gasp* GUNS and revolvers! Oh the humanity! LOL
I have had multiples of both. Javelin Man nailed it quite well, the Dan Wesson revolvers absolutely are accurate as all get-out. They are also equipped with the ability to swap barrels-- assuming you can find extra barrels to purchase. The original Dan Wesson is long out of business but CZ-USA who owns the brand has recently re-introduced the revolvers.
They are neat, historically significant, accurate and enjoyable. I had two, I kept one.
But it really is a long way off from a S&W revolver in fit, finish, feel and in trigger is like night and later in the week.
I would seriously not trade a 19-4 for a Dan Wesson with one barrel. No way. And in confidence, I would recommend that you don't do that either.
A better trade for you would be someone offering a 4-inch Ruger GP-100, and even then a 19-4 is simply going to bring more money almost without exception.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:35 pm
by Bama.45
Sevens wrote:Apologies is right! Shame on you for making us talk *gasp* GUNS and revolvers! Oh the humanity! LOL
I have had multiples of both. Javelin Man nailed it quite well, the Dan Wesson revolvers absolutely are accurate as all get-out. They are also equipped with the ability to swap barrels-- assuming you can find extra barrels to purchase. The original Dan Wesson is long out of business but CZ-USA who owns the brand has recently re-introduced the revolvers.
They are neat, historically significant, accurate and enjoyable. I had two, I kept one.
But it really is a long way off from a S&W revolver in fit, finish, feel and in trigger is like night and later in the week.
I would seriously not trade a 19-4 for a Dan Wesson with one barrel. No way. And in confidence, I would recommend that you don't do that either.
A better trade for you would be someone offering a 4-inch Ruger GP-100, and even then a 19-4 is simply going to bring more money almost without exception.
I appreciate it Sevens, lol... I know a good bit about semi auto handguns, not much about revolver lol... I will hold on to my Smith then until I find someone that has a comparable Smith to trade... Do you think say a 586 would be a good trade?... I just want a 4" barrel... But not going to take a bad trade to get one... I may just save up and buy a "4 barrel Smith and keep my 19-4.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:50 pm
by Sevens
A 586 would be a terrific trade in your favor but you will probably wait a long time to find a trade partner. The blued 586 (some nickel plated) and the 686 came out at the same time, but the number of 686's made greatly outnumbers the 586, I could only guess how much... but 4:1 or 5:1 seems realistic.
A four inch 686 was made in great volume. If shooting .357 Magnum, 586/686 is so much more friendly and enjoyable. More durable also. But for carry (even just open carry for outdoors type of activity) and for shooting any .38 Special... a 4" Model 19 is like a revolver gift from the Gods.
I say a 4-inch 686 is a possible even trade for a 6-inch 19, but finding someone to swap you a 586 will be tough.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:07 pm
by Brian D.
Also keep your eyes open for a model 581 or 681. Fixed sight versions of the 4" L frame.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:11 pm
by Bama.45
Sevens wrote:A 586 would be a terrific trade in your favor but you will probably wait a long time to find a trade partner. The blued 586 (some nickel plated) and the 686 came out at the same time, but the number of 686's made greatly outnumbers the 586, I could only guess how much... but 4:1 or 5:1 seems realistic.
A four inch 686 was made in great volume. If shooting .357 Magnum, 586/686 is so much more friendly and enjoyable. More durable also. But for carry (even just open carry for outdoors type of activity) and for shooting any .38 Special... a 4" Model 19 is like a revolver gift from the Gods.
I say a 4-inch 686 is a possible even trade for a 6-inch 19, but finding someone to swap you a 586 will be tough.
I like the blued revolvers, but I'd definitely trade for a 4" stainless if one come available lol.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:06 pm
by Mr. Glock
So, confession time. I had a beautiful 4" M19...and didn't like it. I thought I hit the holy grail, but ended up selling it a year later. But I love to shoot the 686s.
Moral of the story. Go put a few rounds through it and see if you like it.
Oh...and don't trade for a Dan Wesson.
And if you want to trade for a 4" GP 100, let me know.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:16 pm
by Bama.45
Mr. Glock wrote:So, confession time. I had a beautiful 4" M19...and didn't like it. I thought I hit the holy grail, but ended up selling it a year later. But I love to shoot the 686s.
Moral of the story. Go put a few rounds through it and see if you like it.
Oh...and don't trade for a Dan Wesson.
And if you want to trade for a 4" GP 100, let me know.
Thanks for the confession and advice lol.. I would shoot it, but the gun is in near mint condition and I'd hate to ruin some of the value because I want to trade it lol.. I am interested in Ruger GP 100's... Ruger has always made good firearms, well their 10/22 quality has suffered recently... But their higher end guns have always been sturdy built.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:14 pm
by walnut red
S&W made a LOT of 19s. If you don't abuse or neglect the pistol shooting will not hurt. Unless you are talking absolutely unfired with box and papers. When you start shooting well enough you shoot better than the 19 you should consider tuning it or trading it. In my younger days I spent a lot of money trading guns trying to find something that shot well for me. At one point I was out of the Army, working part time, in college with a wife and two kids. My focus shifted from 'what gun will make me shoot better?" to "How well can I learn to shoot this one gun?". You will be surprised how much your shooting can improve when you spend the limited funds available on reloadign and not gun trading.
Re: Another revolver question
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:13 pm
by Bama.45
I ended up trading it for a Ruger GP100 .357 4" barrel, that shoots pretty darn good.
