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Attention gun advocates

On Tuesday, October 29, down at the Statehouse, we want to fill the committee room when the House Committee for Policy & Legislative Oversight accepts proponent testimony on HB 203.
HB 203 is known as our "Stand Your Ground" bill, and as such, it will face opposition from the antis, but it actually will do much more.

It will recognize all other states Handgun Licenses, same as drivers licenses;
Make Ohio's CHL's NICS compliant, eliminating the background check for CHL holders when buying a gun;
Shorten the training hours required to obtain a CHL;
Make it easier for service members and law enforcement to obtain their CHL;
Allows for a non-resident license for non-residents who work in Ohio
Allows sheriffs the ability to spend CHL funds on safety training as long as they maintain less than thirty days lead time for CHL application appointments;
And more.

This bill does so much that we would like to ensure that there is testimony of all parts of it, rather than everybody testifying in favor of the same two or three points
Several of you have expressed interest in attending legislative hearings and even testifying on some of these bills.
Posting your intentions here will help give an idea of what's covered and what's not

This is the big one, and we would really like to pack the room for this one.
Even if you don't want to speak, come on down and fill a seat.
Let's show the committee members that this is Ohio, and we want more personal freedom, not less, no matter what skewed numbers the antis will try to run, and the numbers I saw from the Townhall last night make this look pretty popular,,,,

I would like to RSVP to address the revisions to ORC 9.68 (statewide preemption) that are in this bill.

Other suggested topics for folks to hit up:
-Changing "citizen" to national (a verbiage technicality, but interesting)
-Reducing minimum hours of training
-Having violent F5s being CHL disqualifiers
-NICS compliance being added to part of the background check
-Keeping active duty service members, stationed outside of Ohio, license active until 6 months from discharge
-Allow nonresident permits for those who work in Ohio
-Removal of duty to retreat
-The exercise of a constitutional right is not disorderly conduct or inducing panic

As Chuck said, let's fill the room! That said, let's not repeat ourselves. If someone testifies about the F5 disqualifier then the committee doesn't need to hear that same point hit again. That's why we're trying to split up the workload, there's plenty for everyone!

I plan on being there...

Don't you need a written statement and so many copies of what you say??? or am I wrong.

Anyone from the Cleveland / Akron / Canton area want to car pool? I should be going.

Pops Fun wrote:I plan on being there...

Don't you need a written statement and so many copies of what you say??? or am I wrong.

One can offer either written or verbal testimony, as well as both.
They request copies of written testimony for all the committee members, I'm too lazy to look up how many that is, so I take twenty or so
They set the extras out for the peanut gallery and press on a table

You can just offer verbal testimony if you want
Read from notes or speak off the cuff if you choose,
I try to make mine around one page, regular font for the committee, and
I print my statement out with a large font for the copy I am going to read, (and an extra or two)

Whatcha' gonna talk about?

Wasn't thing of myself so much. I am more of a watcher than a talker......

Have watched for several years and was wondering exactly how it worked.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Steve

Pops Fun wrote: I am more of a watcher than a talker......

I know,,,,
Can't blame me for trying, can you?

See you down there!!

Morne wrote:Having violent F5s being CHL disqualifiers *** As Chuck said, let's fill the room! That said, let's not repeat ourselves. If someone testifies about the F5 disqualifier then the committee doesn't need to hear that same point hit again. That's why we're trying to split up the workload, there's plenty for everyone!

Note: That still won't prevent convicted crack cocaine and heroin dealers from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun. If that makes it through, anticipate alternative legislation (maybe penalty changes) during the next session, which will be driven by law enforcement and which will create unintended consequences.

Just sayin' ...

Bianchi? wrote:Anyone from the Cleveland / Akron / Canton area want to car pool? I should be going.

Scratch that. I need to be in Akron that day.

I am trying to secure the time off work for that afternoon. Once I confirm that, I will ping about a topic to testify on.

Morne wrote:

MrMagoo wrote:I talked to the committee chairman's office today and he verified that as of now it's on the schedule for Oct. 8 proponent testimony but the agenda won't be finalized till next week and is subject to change. We need to check the hearing schedule for the committee next week to verify.

Gary

***UPDATE***

The new date for hearing is 10/29.

The OP has been edited to reflect the change,,,,,

I am skeptical about shortening the training time for the Ohio concealed handgun license. As an NRA certified instructor and a concealed carry class instructor I see students that barely learn enough during the 10 hour classroom Instruction we currently give them. Teaching basic firearms safety before issuing a concealed handgun license would be like teaching someone the controls in the car without teaching how to use them before getting a driver's license. I believe the current 10 our classroom requirement is the minimum that I would be comfortable with

I didn't have to take any required training to get my Drivers license.....

Huntinbull wrote:I am skeptical about shortening the training time for the Ohio concealed handgun license. As an NRA certified instructor and a concealed carry class instructor I see students that barely learn enough during the 10 hour classroom Instruction we currently give them. Teaching basic firearms safety before issuing a concealed handgun license would be like teaching someone the controls in the car without teaching how to use them before getting a driver's license. I believe the current 10 our classroom requirement is the minimum that I would be comfortable with

Well I suggest you stay out of Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Vermont and Wyoming if you want to remain "comfortable"

Huntinbull wrote:I am skeptical about shortening the training time for the Ohio concealed handgun license. As an NRA certified instructor and a concealed carry class instructor I see students that barely learn enough during the 10 hour classroom Instruction we currently give them. Teaching basic firearms safety before issuing a concealed handgun license would be like teaching someone the controls in the car without teaching how to use them before getting a driver's license. I believe the current 10 our classroom requirement is the minimum that I would be comfortable with

I have been involved in training adults in both classroom and physical skills for most of my career. I have been an NRA certified trainer/ chief range safety officer for close to a decade, and earning these various inside the home-outside the home certificates was expensive. Additionally, I own a company which provided training to police and criminal justice agencies.

I support the Ohio General Assembly doing away with the training (both classroom and range) requirements for adult Ohioans to carry concealed firearms and the proscription against carrying other weapons, i.e. batons, etc.