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M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:42 pm
by jeep45238
A while back I transitioned from a HUGE 1911 shooter/JMB decifle into the black polymer framed pistol world - a world that I swore I would never enter again after carrying a Glock 19 (nothing wrong with that pistol if you like it, mind you). I thought I posted my thoughts on the replacement platform, the S&W M&P, on here, but I can't find them to update them, so I guess I didn't. So....here's that part first:
Well, I've been a through-through John Moses Browning guy for a while. The 5" has been my daily companion (concealed and occasionally openly shown), range trainer for new shooters, and my competition pistol. .20-.22 splits without trying, dead accurate, holds a 9" group at 50 yards standing shooting with both hands. Steel frame, great ergonomics, good sights, great trigger....we stayed together through thick and thin, and looking back on the guns that I've bought and sold, I've always reached back to the 5" 1911. Something about a steel gun with soul :whistle: - makes me drool :w00t:

Not any more. See, my thing is for efficient tools, even if I don't really like them. Glocks, Kahrs, KelTec's, Brownings, 1911's, XD's, etc. - I've done most of the more common pistols, and always found something I liked, but never one that I could run faster/more accurate than my tried/trued .45ACP 1911.

Then I got a chance to try a .40S&W MP compact. I like the .40 cartridge for it's power, but loathe it's snap and slow second shots for me. I ran the little polymer S&W MP .40 as fast as my full size steel 1911. :huh: Shorter sight radius, less mass, longer trigger travel, and a snappier cartridge. I chalked it up for a platform to remember, and said "it was probably those guy's reloads that made it so."

I then foolishly rented a full size MP 9mm, coughed over the cash for their rental, $25 for a box of 9mm :ouch: , and went to the firing line with about 200 rounds of my own 9mm that I wouldn't ever dream of shooting through their rental gun, since they said I couldn't. Well, we all know what happens when you tell kids they shouldn't do something :lol:

My initial impressions were "wow." The gun was as accurate as my 1911, the felt recoil was more or less the same between all rounds, which ranged from Wolf that barely cycled the slide to +p+ 9mm that chucked brass over 40 feet. Split times I thought were very close to the 1911 at the end of the range session, shooting them back to back and guesstimating.

A few weeks later I went to a gunshow with my buddy - he teaches for the Appleseed Project, and I teach him how to shoot pistols. It was his birthday, which he wanted to spend at a gun show, that restaurant with pretty waitresses dressed in white shirts and orange daisy dukes, the casino, and later on to pay for his fair share of some pretty women's college tuition. After scouring for any decent deals on 9mm MP's, I had given up. I went to get a Coke, and there it was at the end table - a fiber optic front sight on a MP. :geek:

I negotiated a deal after verifying that I had available cash, telling myself I can sell my Kahr T40 and it's goodies to pay for the MP. I also now keep a 5" MP9 Pro on my side, not a 1911.

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To those wanting cliffnotes, you don't get any - why write a note when you can write a novel? Reading's good for ya anyway :thumbsup:
Just to give this a bit of an update, 6 months later:

Well, I've been pushing my M&P 9Pro (5" with Apex Tactical Sear, home brew striker block) and trying to get it to fail. I've been doing this by shooting a LOT of 9mm lead reloads over the past couple months, and not cleaning the pistol at all. I have lubricated the barrel, but that's it - nothing on the rails, striker/sear, etc. The only modifications that I have made in addition to the sear and striker block is a complete stippling job of the grip on the frame, trigger guard, and where my thumb rests on the frame when shooting with a thumbs forward grip.

It hasn't malfunctioned on me yet, and cycles great, even though I can see a ring of lead building at the end of the chamber (which is why it's getting cleaned today). There's also a bunch of build up under the barrel hood, perfectly taking up the space between where the cartridge sits in batter and the barrel itself, and the same thick layer of gook on the feed ramp.

Keep in mind that this is my carry pistol - and feel free to cringe if that's your natural reaction.

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Still runs like a champ. I'm sold :mrgreen:

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:02 pm
by NavyChief
Nice report - it's been added to the range report index.

BTW folks - putting this stuff in the range reports is nice, but if you don't I'll usually try to crosslink it.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:14 pm
by Ghost Recon
I've got one and it absolutely rocks. 1500 rounds and no problems. Everything else just sits in the safe....

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:08 am
by Morne
Glad you enjoy it!

I tried an M&P and was just...underhwlemed. Maybe my expectations had been set too high. Despite my JMB fanhood status there is at least one polymer framed pistol that I would buy, but it ain't an M&P and it ain't a Glock.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:29 am
by Sevens
Morne wrote: Despite my JMB fanhood status there is at least one polymer framed pistol that I would buy, but it ain't an M&P and it ain't a Glock.
I think the obvious guess is XD given what you said and what you left out. But I'm going to go the other way and guess HK, maybe a USP?
jeep45238 wrote: I thought I posted my thoughts on the replacement platform, the S&W M&P, on here, but I can't find them to update them, so I guess I didn't.
I'm pretty sure I read that report in the range reports -- I remember the pictures.

The update is pretty good. I wouldn't say I cringe at the filthy, leaded up pistol. I just don't (myself) like to carry a dirty gun. I'd always like to be able to pass inspection with a "clean enough to eat a meal off" carry gun in the (however outrageously unlikely) event that some schmuck tries to accuse me of shots fired in a scenario where there were none.

Maybe just a tiny little hedge of a bet in my favor that I'll likely never need.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:07 am
by Ghost Recon
They had problems with the first rollout of M&P's. I always wait for the problems to get corrected. I'll be selling off some of my other guns prolly next year. As we get closer to the gun ban treaty, prices will sky rocket. No sense selling now.....

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:00 am
by Imcrazy
M&P's are great guns, I had 3 of them at one point before I sold them to fund two 1911's lol. I just couldn't get the same kind of performance out of my M&P 45's that I do with my 1911's.

However, I may just pick up a 9mm M&P down the road.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:05 am
by Ghost Recon
I considered a 1911 but the cost of ammo and availability changed my mind.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:25 pm
by jeep45238
Morne wrote:Glad you enjoy it!

I tried an M&P and was just...underhwlemed. Maybe my expectations had been set too high. Despite my JMB fanhood status there is at least one polymer framed pistol that I would buy, but it ain't an M&P and it ain't a Glock.

Send me a PM - I believe I can tell you how to cure the ills of the M&P for very cheap ;)

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:01 pm
by NavyChief
At some point I'm gonna have to try shooting one. I did get a chance to handle one at a local shop and I must admit it felt pretty nice in the hand...

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:49 am
by jeep45238
Here's the money shot that I was finally able to upload (had a bad camera cable and didn't know it)

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Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:06 pm
by Mr. Glock
I can hear it....faintly....you've made all the JMB disiples cry. :cry:

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:39 am
by JD59
I have owned a M&P 9C for a few years now. I can say confidently that it is 100% reliable and has never failed once.

Re: M&P 9Pro - 6 month update

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:35 am
by BobK
Mr. Glock wrote:I can hear it....faintly....you've made all the JMB disiples cry. :cry:
Well, in fairness, the M&P (like many pistols) still use the JMB-designed tilt-up barrel, locked breech action that traces back to the High Power. His influence is pervasive. :mrgreen: