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Probably Karma for giving Dan grief about being a frequent flyer...But today I got stopped for speeding in North Hampton.

Just outside of town, Wife commented on them being a speed trap. We stopped briefly, she got something out of the trunk, and didn't buckle back up. I didn't accelerate all that fast, but since the edge of town was coming up didn't pay close attention to my speed. Got pulled over, and given a ticket for speeding, and passenger with no seatbelt.

Had to interrupt the officer to tell him I had a CHL and was carrying, but I wasn't willing to give him the opportunity to say I hadn't informed him. Once I told him, He said "That's fine sir, as long as you're not going to use it". He did not check my CHL, didn't ask where the gun was (IWB holster, right side, buckeye tucked) didn't want me to keep my hands in sight--From then on, he totally ignored the gun, and concentrated on the revenue generating tickets. I'm not happy with the speed-trap stop, but can't fault them for their handling of CCW.

sevesteen wrote:"That's fine sir, as long as you're not going to use it".

Some people were so eager to fault me for anything they could in my thread that they missed the points I was trying to make with it. One of them being when one officer said "A pizza guy with a CCW? Sounds like shooting. Sounds like a gunfight."

Somebody higher up needs to better educate some of the forces or at least make sure what's being handed down is more uniform. They can start by explaining that licenses are issued to the statistically safest, well-intentioned individuals. Would've prevented patrolman Costanzo from asking me if I had any felonies. Would've prevented the TPD officer from suggesting that it was only for violence. Would've prevented your officer from even thinking you'd be using it during a traffic stop.

dan_sayers wrote:Would've prevented your officer from even thinking you'd be using it during a traffic stop.

I don't think he really thought that, and I may have his exact words wrong. It came across more like permission to move around as needed, with a tiny restriction that we both understood I knew, but he had to tell me anyhow.

sevesteen wrote:

dan_sayers wrote:Would've prevented your officer from even thinking you'd be using it during a traffic stop.

I don't think he really thought that, and I may have his exact words wrong. It came across more like permission to move around as needed, with a tiny restriction that we both understood I knew, but he had to tell me anyhow.

I took it this way too. When I read this the first time I took it as the officer you encountered didn't really care that you had a firearm unless you were going to force him to have to care. This is the mindset we need. The comment was comparable to a post here a long time ago where someone reported a cop said "I have a gun too, but lets deal with your speeding..."

I thought the same when a friend of mine and myself witnessed a guy vandalizing a new siding job on e flower shop,with a can of paint.
After they caught the guy and brought him up for us to identify I had informed the officer that was there that I had a gun and showed him my license.
His response was,'That's ok. Just remember that wer're both on the same side!" No problem I told him. and he smiled.

Likewise the one encounter I had with a LEO he stated to me "you keeo yours in your holster, and I won't remove mine"

This is defiently the mindset We need. We are all on the same side.

Bill

Still, for them to verbalize it indicates they feel that they'd need to. Whenever I'm with a cop, I don't feel constrained to remind him we're on the same team. Except when they pull a gun on me

Well, I guess it depends on how the officer says these things. From some of these comments, Dan, it's pretty clear the officer knows you have to inform him and through the use of humor is indicating that everything is ok and he thinks you're a good guy. Comments like "I have one too, but..." and "If you leave yours in your holster so will I" read more like a guy who is comfortable with the situation and is letting you know it.