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Father defends family
Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:24 pm
by NavyChief
Well, overall this had a reasonably satisfactory outcome, although things could have gone a bit better...
Police: Father Shoots, Kills Robber; Boy Hit By Stray Bullet
POSTED: 7:39 am EDT May 6, 2006
UPDATED: 10:36 pm EDT May 6, 2006
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Police said a father trying to defend his family shot and killed a man who tried to rob the family in a car on the Westside before dawn on Saturday, but a 10-year-old boy was hit by a stray bullet.
According to Channel 4's Melanie Lawson, a family was waiting in their car outside a McGirts Creek Regional Park at the corner of Checkmate Lane and 118th Street, hoping to be first in line to sign up for summer camp. When a 30-year-old man approached, armed with a shotgun, about 3 a.m., the father pulled a gun and shot the gunman.
One of the bullets ricocheted and struck Drebon. He is hospitalized in critical but stable condition at Shands-Jacksonville Medical Center.
The robber's name had not been released.
Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:06 pm
by dan_sayers
Glad the assailant died. Trying to terrorize a family with a shotgun. For shame!
Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:01 pm
by NavyChief
Well, I'm not glad he died. I am glad the father successfully defended his family. I'm also glad my tax dollars won't be spent on this goblin's trial and incarceration. And I'm glad the father has immunity from any civil action by the goblin's family. I just really wish a stray round hadn't hit an innocent.
Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:40 pm
by dan_sayers
NavyChief wrote:Well, I'm not glad he died... I'm also glad my tax dollars won't be spent on this goblin's trial and incarceration.
I'm sure you realize one's not possible without the other, right?
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:57 am
by Wayne
Justice has been served,swift and sure.
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:31 am
by LeGiOn
I'm sure there is a paper out there somewhere that will blame the victim on the Boy being shot then the actual BG who caused the situation in the first place.
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:56 am
by NavyChief
dan_sayers wrote:I'm sure you realize one's not possible without the other, right?
And yet, a subtle but significant difference. Not unlike the difference between "shoot to stop" and "shoot to kill"...
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:53 am
by dan_sayers
Well you'll have to excuse me if I don't go bleeding heart, "human dead" over some guy I've never met, but that we know felt that terrorizing a family with a shotgun was okay.
On a side note, in your "half full/half empty" analogy, I see them both as inapplicable. We shoot to live
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:22 am
by willbird
I never shoot anything intending to wound it, it is inhumane to do so, whether it is a man or a mouse. If a person chooses a course of action that puts them in the sights of a person justified to shoot them, only luck on their part will have them survive the encounter. Yes it is perfectly valid to stop employing lethal force if the asailent is totally disabled, otherwise the force is re-applied as needed to achieve that goal.
Bill
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:54 am
by NavyChief
dan_sayers wrote:We shoot to live
Excellent point.
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:19 pm
by Rev's Wife
I'm glad that the father defended his family. Once more of us law abiding citizens do so with consequences similar to this situation then maybe more of the BGs will think twice about pulling stuff.
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:32 pm
by NavyChief
A little more info from the local paper. I'll provide the link, but I suspect registration is required...
Boy wounded in robbery still in critical condition
The Times-Union
Last modified Mon., May 08, 2006 - 05:37 PM
A 10-year-old boy remained in critical condition Sunday after he was wounded when his father shot and killed a robber at a Jacksonville park Saturday.
Drevon Ricks was at Shands Jacksonville after possibly being hit with a ricocheting bullet from his father's gun, police said. Jorrick Dwayne Landry, 29, pulled out a gun and shot the armed robber who walked up to the family of five as they sat in their vehicle waiting to enroll in a city parks program at McGirts Creek Park.
The family gave up their possessions to the robber but Landry's concern heightened when the assailant demanded the rear door of the Ford Expedition be opened. Landry grabbed his own gun and shot the robber, who died at the scene, police said.
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:37 pm
by NavyChief
dan_sayers wrote:Well you'll have to excuse me if I don't go bleeding heart, "human dead" over some guy I've never met, but that we know felt that terrorizing a family with a shotgun was okay.
Perhaps I should have explained myself better. I have no problem whatsoever with the goblin's demise. Ooops. Life is hard - life is harder if you're stupid. He was stupid. I'm just not
glad. . .
Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:22 pm
by Petrovich
willbird wrote:I never shoot anything intending to wound it, it is inhumane to do so, whether it is a man or a mouse. If a person chooses a course of action that puts them in the sights of a person justified to shoot them, only luck on their part will have them survive the encounter. Yes it is perfectly valid to stop employing lethal force if the asailent is totally disabled, otherwise the force is re-applied as needed to achieve that goal.
Bill
Yeah, but do yourself a favor. If the scumbag is on the ground squirming like a toad don't administer the coup de grace. It's bad form.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:51 pm
by GasTurbine
NavyChief wrote:dan_sayers wrote:We shoot to live
Excellent point.
But we must first "defuse" and "retreat" to live too...
Hey Chief, are you still in the Navy? I spent some time on the Iowa in '84...right after her re-commision.
What a sweet ship...brass everywhere, teak deck, but best of all...those BIG guns.
Later.