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SIG P225

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SIG P225

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Anybody have/had one of these? Any cons that you wish were fixed or just bugged you?

I've got a chance to get one at a reasonable price, was just looking for some input on them from some owners.

I know some will say "it's a Sig, 'nuff said", but you'll find that with some folks on some manufacturer regardless, so I'm just trying to find some feedback on the suckers.

Thanks ya'll.
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Gander had a bunch....but they were pretty old West German police guns. Kind of pricey for the miles. They don't make the 225 anymore, but a lot people like them, including Mike Barnes/Banes (sp?) from shooting gallery TV.

I've heard nothing but good comments about Sigs. Alot of special operators like Seals use Sigs now (told to me by a Seal at Camp Perry this year). They don't fit my hand in the store, but I'd like to try one at the range some day. They are, in general, a little bigger and heavier than I am used to with the Glocks.
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Gander had the W. German PD P6 for $349 (AIM had them for $389 iirc but I believe they are out).
THe German PD guns were worn and carried a lot and shot little so lots of surface/holster wear, plus a really nasty importer's engraving on the frame. Otherwise mechanically excellent, for a single-stack 9mm they are nice guns. Mags are not so easy to find. But a nice gun. I am hoping that GM marks them down to $299 someday and I will buy one then. They were $400 or so IIRC so price is slowly trickling down as they sit in inventory.
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Last time I was at Gander, they told me they were not selling too well....look for a reduction. They came in high on the Indian BHP too, and dropped about 40% on that one.

Although someone suggested otherwise, the ones I saw had American-style mag releases.

BTW: P6=225, for those who don't know.
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I just walked in the door with a lightly used Sig 229 with both .40 and .357sig barrels and a few mags.

If it shoots as good as it feels in hand I'm going to be one happy fellow.

I've always wondered about Sig pistols. I can understand the appeal better now.

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Well, looks like I'm not gonna get a Sig, and TunnelRat snagged that CZ85.

Flip side of the coin though, while looking around today I found a CZ 40B. 1911 style grip and frame, aluminum alloy frame, 10+1 capacity, SA/DA, night sights. Price wasn't bad either, now I just need to get a holster for it.

Only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a de-cocker. Due to my thumb's length when I swipe the safety while keeping the same grip, it slips over it. I'd rather carry DA first shot without the safety on, and for that I have to let the hammer down on a live round :-(

If I can find a different safety though, I'll carry cocked and locked without thinking twice.
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WBL_2006 wrote:I just walked in the door with a lightly used Sig 229 with both .40 and .357sig barrels and a few mags.

If it shoots as good as it feels in hand I'm going to be one happy fellow.

I've always wondered about Sig pistols. I can understand the appeal better now.

WBL
I have a 228 in 9mm (virtually identical) and it's a very sweet shooter. Big enough to do the job, but just a tad smaller than the 220 and easier to conceal in summer.

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Re: SIG P225

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*gravedigger* I finally did get one, and not a worn out/abused P6!

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The nice thing about the P225 is it's about the size of a G19, that's easier to hide because of the curvature. This is going to be my appendix gun, so having a hammer to put a thumb over with a true double action, adding in the hip thrust to point the muzzle clear of the body (and femoral artery :shock: ) makes it much more comforting for reholstering. My Beretta is over an inch longer, and makes it difficult to do daily activities in any location besides hip carry. I like appendix since people don't look at other people in that region, and tend to avoid contact with it at nearly all costs.

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I bought it from the original buyer for a fair price with two mags, factory box, and factory test target. I have a line on 3 more magazines for Monday, and a short reset trigger has been ordered. I'll be doing a polish job on the internal actions, converting to the new style hammer strut/spring for ease of maintence next month, and if I'm lucky I'll get some G10 grips for my birthday. Interesting thing to note about Sigs, they're the only centerfire I've been warned to never dryfire without a snap cap as the firing pin can break the slide pins.

The lockup is great, and the only place with a bit of funky finish wear is the top of the first inch or so of rail. Lockup is supurbly tight, and I'm looking forward to tweaking this to better match my Beretta's performance. The barrel has some smiles, but nothing severe. Rifling is pretty strong, and will stay that way for a long time since I shoot predominantly cast bullets at moderate velocities instead of jacketed. The feedramp works with modern hollow points as well as my trunticated cone castings.

On an unrelated note, it's interesting how my preferred setup has changed over the years. Polymer DAO with safety, to steel SAO with safety for a long time, to polymer single action strikers (MP) to polymer partially cocked strikers (glocks), to aluminum double action/single action pistols.
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Interesting thing to note about Sigs, they're the only centerfire I've been warned to never dryfire without a snap cap as the firing pin can break the slide pins.
Hmm, Interesting, that is the first time I have ever heard that. I have four Sigs (P230, 226, 228, 220) .and although I don't do a lot of dry firing, I have never had a problem.

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That's a long time to wait for the right gun , 2007. :mrgreen:
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OhioPaints wrote:
Interesting thing to note about Sigs, they're the only centerfire I've been warned to never dryfire without a snap cap as the firing pin can break the slide pins.
Hmm, Interesting, that is the first time I have ever heard that. I have four Sigs (P230, 226, 228, 220) .and although I don't do a lot of dry firing, I have never had a problem.

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The pins in the folded carbon steel slides hold the breech face and take the full brunt of the breech block/firing pin and will break after enough dry firing, and the FPPP pin on the stainless one piece slides suffer from the same.

I do a lot of dry firing, as it's a great free way to improve the basic mechanical aspects of firing a pistol :)
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Re: SIG P225

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Did a little work on the internals with jewler's rouge and some Spyderco white ceramic rods to the internals, trimmed the mainspring down from 29 coils to 25 coils (factory weight 24 pound spring), and ordered 2 mags today.

Also found out that it feeds fired cases from slide lock. First gun I've ever had that has done this. Not sure how much of it is old wives tail or not, but that blew me away.
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