Does anyone know why....

[Glock and dagger]

...the Glock 25 and the Glock 28, both .380ACP handguns, are not for sale in the US?

[Willy P]

I think that is on either the Glock or GlockMeister web site. I'll edit to put the url in here if I find it.
YEP Glock website under the 380 says: Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto - the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.

[Glock Rock]

I found this on a website:

#11 - WHAT IS THE GLOCK MODEL 25 & 28 AND WHY CAN'T I FIND THEM?
Both the G25 and G28 are chambered for .380 ammunition. They G25 is a compact model on the order of the G19/23. They G28 is a subcompact model on the order of the G26/27. They are not available in the U.S.A. - only in countries where the civilian population is restricted from owning the same caliber weapon as their military and law enforcement.

But this is hogwash. It's because of BATF size/weight import points system restrictions.

http://www.glock.com/body__380.htm

[Petrovich]

I found this on a website:

#11 - WHAT IS THE GLOCK MODEL 25 & 28 AND WHY CAN'T I FIND THEM?
Both the G25 and G28 are chambered for .380 ammunition. They G25 is a compact model on the order of the G19/23. They G28 is a subcompact model on the order of the G26/27. They are not available in the U.S.A. - only in countries where the civilian population is restricted from owning the same caliber weapon as their military and law enforcement.

But this is hogwash. It's because of BATF size/weight import points system restrictions.

http://www.glock.com/body__380.htm

Sound like glockwash to me!!!

[qm1edw]

I'll never personlly own a Glock (I'm an XD man) but just have a question. What is the GAP round?

[Glock and dagger]

The .45GAP round is a shorter round than a .45ACP round that utilizes greater chamber pressure than a .45ACP, and designed to fire in a 9mm/.40SW size frame. Currently, the models G-37, G-38 and G-39 are on the market (or will be soon, in the case of the 38 and 39).

[Ring]

its only 1 oz lighter then the 9mm and the same size... why would you want it?

[Brian_Horton]

The BATF import restrictions are why we can't get it here in the US. It doesn't score enough points. I think that if Glock were to build a plant to manufacture them in the US then we could buy them.

[the right wing zealot]

The story is that once the plant they are buliding in Georgia is open, Glock plans on introducing various models to the US that they previously could not sell here. Glock fans, correct me if I am wrong.

[Glock and dagger]

They already have a plant in Smyrna, Georgia. I'm not positive whether it is a manufacturing plant, or not, but that would be a beautiful thing. I can see why they won't build it here, though.

Not until they cannot be sued by money grubbers and bloodsuckers.

[Brian_Horton]

I believe it is just an assembly and distribution plant, none of the parts are actually made there. Glock cannot compete for contracts with the US Army because their manufacturing facilities are not located in the US. To do so they would have to do like Beretta USA and open a manufacturing facility in the US. If Glock were to ever do that then we could buy the G25 and G28.

[Brian D.]

Have long been told by true "Glockophiles" that the process used in their Tenifer finishing involves the use of chemicals/procedures that are not currently allowed in the U.S. Dunno if this is true however...

[Brian_Horton]

That's very possible, Brian. I am not sure what the chemical process is. I know that the Tennifer is a metal treatment, not a finish, which is one reason why it works so well. It is very possible that the chemicals they need to use would not be allowed by the EPA without paying a big fee and lots of oversight or maybe OSHA would not allow the workers to handle and use the chemicals the same way over here.

I have often wondered why no US manufacturer has ever tried to develop or use a metal treatment much like Tennifer on their firearms.

[Petrovich]

its only 1 oz lighter then the 9mm and the same size... why would you want it?

Exactly....why WOULD you want it??

Higher chamber pressure for identical ballistic result??? No gain there.

Supposedly the shorter round enables the gun maker to manufacture a slightly smaller pistol. This is the only perceived advantage. When I say smaller I only mean chopped. The width of the gun cannot change, it will always be the same depending on single stack or double stack mags so nothing changed there either.

GAP has absolutely NO advantage over many of the currently manufactured .45acp micro compacts made by other companies.

Oh, and they purposely changed the head diameter to stymie any attempt to trim .45acp brass so the shooter is FORCED to buy factory ammo or new brass if he wants to reload.

GAP is a marketing FARCE and the round will die a slow death.

[Glock and dagger]

I'll second that one, PFG.