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Ohio concealed carry for teachers

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Re: Ohio concealed carry for teachers

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CORRECTION: I meant to type sunshine, not umbrella. Sorry for any confusion.
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Tweed Ring wrote:If the grievant, and his union, file a well-worded document, detailing how the terms and conditions were impacted, an arbitrator will, in all probability, hear the compliant. Frankly, this is a grievance almost ripe, and begging to be heard.

I predict, if this ever comes to pass, the OEA will ask for training held on paid OT, will eventually request a performance bonus, and possibly other enhancements.

Ohio's Collective Bargaining Legislation was passed by a Democrat OGA, and signed by a Democrat governor. It would never be passed today, by this OGA and this governor. But, when the OGA tried to pass SB 5, and pulled the governor into that mess, a change to the Collective Bargaining process, they got their lunch handed to them.
The OEA will involve themselves as much as possible in this situation. Eventually, they will ask for paid (OT) training, and eventually a performance bonus or performance enhancement. It's the way of bargaining collectively in Ohio. I doubt the OGA, once burned, twice shy, will involve themselves in this issue.

Please don't believe me...just watch what happens.
OEA, being the brain dead organization it has become, may well see it as an opportunity to get some extra compensation for teachers, and if boards agree, those records are public, and anybody can find out which teachers are armed, thereby defeating what I think is an important part of the concealed carry law, and placing the teachers at increased risk, and watering down the "there's no way to know which teachers are armed" deterrent effect.

The first amendment to the new law, should it pass and become law, will hopefully deal with this problem. If OEA had a clue, it would be lobbying for this change now.
That would apply, unless that decision was made as a part of an executive decision secession. That could shield it from the umbrella laws.
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Re: Ohio concealed carry for teachers

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Two different laws, public records vs open meetings act. The point I was making is that the pay is a public record, also, no decisions are made nor is action taken in executive session.
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Re: Ohio concealed carry for teachers

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dsk wrote:Two different laws, public records vs open meetings act. The point I was making is that the pay is a public record, also, no decisions are made nor is action taken in executive session.
While true, it could be masked as one sort of stipend for "security" coordinator, or advisor for other ghost student oriented organizations. Ala "skunk works" types of projects, if they are creative enough.

And by no means am I suggesting that it occurs currently.
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