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When talking to others, I'm real big on the terms that I use.
So, when we're calling our representatives and writing Letters to the Editor (we're all doing that, right?
) it's my personal opinion that we'll have greater success if we substitute "getting Restaurant Carry" with something like "repeal the ban on self-defense while dining".
So, when we're calling our representatives and writing Letters to the Editor (we're all doing that, right?

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..............I LIKE THAT.MeanStreaker wrote:When talking to others, I'm real big on the terms that I use.
So, when we're calling our representatives and writing Letters to the Editor (we're all doing that, right?) it's my personal opinion that we'll have greater success if we substitute "getting Restaurant Carry" with something like "repeal the ban on self-defense while dining".
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I think we have our buzz phrase now to hit up Columbus with: Repeal the ban on self-defense in restaurants! I expect a hundred thousand letters to Columbus in the mail today (hopefully). Can you imagine how quickly a bill like that would get passed with that kind of mobilization?
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Just thought I'd update everyone that I just got back from a land well-versed in freedom and Constitutional rights (aka Virginia). I must admit that I didn't see ONE single no-gun sign, and open as well as concealed carry was a total breeze (and I was in Richmond!). I even patronized a number of local watering holes where not only did my open carry self not set off any alarms, no SWAT raids, or anything of the sort, but also earned me free nonalcoholic beverages as it was assumed that I was the DD! I love the South!
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There are several items to consider when thinking of settling on a 50% law. You and I may look at it and decide that an establishment such as BW3 which someone else already used as an example and say they make at least 50% of their revenue from food and therefore we would be able to carry there assuming such an amendment were passed. The problem is what if you are sitting in the bar area, or what if the AG, LEO, or DA decides that they make more than 50% on alcohol sales. And what constitutes 50% sales? Is it net sales, or net profit. Please keep in mind restaurants make a lot of money from alcohol sales. The only compromise that should be made would be a no consumption law. I personally believe that if I decide I want to have a beer after a long day and I am carrying for the purpose of self defense I should be able to do both as long as I break no law. That said I would never drink and then go to the gun club or hunting. I condone no one who will go out drinking and then purposely go out shooting (gun club, hunting, etc.) There are other states one of which I recently moved from that have it right and do not have any laws prohibiting carry in bars, restaurants, etc.
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I am originally from PA. When we dine in the home state, I often will have a beer with dinner, or a drink before dinner. Oddly enough my Glock 23 has never jumped out of its holster and shot a restaurant to pieces.
I just can't figure it out. Ohio must make guns act up.
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We are not concerned with the Glock shooting up the restaurant. We just don't want the Glock shooting up the patrons.McM wrote:I am originally from PA. When we dine in the home state, I often will have a beer with dinner, or a drink before dinner. Oddly enough my Glock 23 has never jumped out of its holster and shot a restaurant to pieces.
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Don't see the problem, if you can legally drive a potentially deadly weapon, you should be able to eat/drink with one; abiding by the same guidelines
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Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??pws wrote:Don't see the problem, if you can legally drive a potentially deadly weapon, you should be able to eat/drink with one; abiding by the same guidelines

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Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??
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jabeatty wrote:Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??
Or they might be those extra-deadlier hollow points, rounds so dangerous they are banned in warfare by Geneva Convention..

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Would the hollow-points be filled with garlic?evan price wrote:Or they might be those extra-deadlier hollow points, rounds so dangerous they are banned in warfare by Geneva Convention..jabeatty wrote:Of course they'd be FMJ projos, and the perp would weigh less than ninety pounds soaking wet...willbird wrote:Can you imagine the legal fallout that would occur if you had 1/2 a beer then had to shoot somebody, and you were using HANDLOADS ??
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Only at the better Italian restaurants. The really nice ones they are filled with a blend of garlic and parmesan cheese, sauteed onions, and a light marinara sauce. Served with a side of linguini.jabeatty wrote:Would the hollow-points be filled with garlic?
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