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Inova T3 Tactical Flashlight

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Inova T3 Tactical Flashlight

This is the Inova T3 tactical flashlight. Inova products, in my opinion, are underrated. They can perform as well if not better than the more expensive lights without blowing the bank account.

Light Type: LED
Weight: 5.99 oz.
Brightness 100 Lumens
Inova Light
Retail: $84.99
Length: 6.2 inches

The T3 is the mid-line product from their tactical series. The "X" series can be purchased from Target stores.

PRICE
Retail on the T3 is available direct from Inova for $84.99. I purchased mine new from Ebay much cheaper, $47.00 (shipping NOT included).

APPEARANCE
The light is sexy and sleek. Machined from solid aluminum, the only additons to the body are the lens rind and the tailcap. Texturing covers the length of the body, however it is still a bit slippery.

BRIGHTNESS
The light boasts 100 lumens. On a scale of 1 to 10, I rate it an 8 based on my wife's reaction of "What the &$*$ are you doing?". The center has a nice spot beam while the spill is smooth.

VERSION
This is the updated version from Inova. The older model sports 2 batteries, this has 3 123A Lithium batteries (included). A nice review of the older model can be found here.

CONSTRUCTION
As mentioned earlier, the body is solid aluminum, and very sturdy. he lens is glass, not plastic and the switch is smooth. The tailcap features a clickie on/off toggle. Push once to turn on, again for off. A half press will allow momentary on, good for tactical situations.

I plan on mounting this unit on a Remington 870 shotgun for home defense and will report on that project upon it's completion.

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S&W M&P 9mm Compact

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Just picked this up the other day, brand spankin new, Took it to the range that night, Warden had a problem with it not locking the slide back after the last shot and a few stovepipes. Turned out to be operator issue, not gun issue, she tends to "Limp Wrist" every now and then. It shot perfectly when I got hold of it. No problems at all. Warden just needs more practice, She had a little trouble pulling the slide back but after about 100 rounds she was doing better. Did the standard break in, One shot, boresnake, one shot, boresnake, for ten shots, two shots, boresnake for five then ten shots boresnake for five. then started to run full mags through her with no problems. Nice crisp trigger break, functioned flawlessly.

Now today, when i went to stip it and clean it, the locking lug on the backstrap retention pin kind of peeled off from being turned out of the locking detent. Will be back at vances on sat to show it to them and see if they can replace it there, or if ill have to go through S&W for a new pin.

Will see what happens and will report the results.
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Springfield GI

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I took my new Springfield GI to the range for the first time today.It fired without a hitch. The shooter however needs some work.Having never fired a 45 before I was anticipating the shot badly. The huge BANG! took me a bit to overcome. I'm sure I will get comfortable with that with practise. This was my last target /last 7 rd mag. I was coming into it better by then. The distance was 15 yards. I thought it had surprisingly low recoil but the BANG! is horendous! I'm used to shooting 9mm & 38 special and there's an obvious adjustment.
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yeah it takes a bit of getting used to, I actually started shooting a .44 mag before i got my .45, so the adjustment wasnt so hard, matter of fact, i cured my buddy's anticipation and flinching by letting him shoot my .44 mag. then he went back to his 9mm and never had another problem
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Ruger LCP

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The Ruger LCP (lightweight compact pistol) comes chambered in .380ACP and sells for around $300, give or take a few bucks depending on location. But don't look for them on too many store shelves, apparently they are flying out of stock rooms as soon as they come in. Mine hadn't even been booked into inventory when I purchased it! They'd received 3 in the morning shipment, 2 were already spoken for and I snatched up the last one. Never had a sub 500 serial number on a piece before.

Obviously there's a comparison to KelTec's P3AT. There are a few notable differences. Mostly in dimensions, weight and quality of workmanship. KelTecs come out of the factory a little rough but with lots of character, machine marks are nothing uncommon on their products. The LCP, however, is a very finished product, inside and out.

You can see from the photos that the lines area a bit cleaner and the finish much more polished. It seems as if a real effort has been made to equip the frame with some ergonomic features, well, as much ergonomics as you can fit into a small package. Such as the lines behind the trigger for the thumb and index finger.

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First most obvious difference is: the LCP comes with a manual (pseudo) slidelock. It will not lock the slide open after the last round, it's just for holding the slide open after you slide it into place with your thumb. It's a pretty nice feature to have on these little guns.

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Another is how the barrel is slightly recessed. I don't recall my old KelTec sitting this far back. Maybe Ruger has spec'd out a slightly thicker face to the slide to solve some of the P3AT problems around the guide rod hole. Also, the guiderod has two recoil springs to the KelTec's one.

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The ejector doesn't fall out of the LCP. It's set securely in the frame with that pseudo slidelock, sorry no pic of that area.

The extractor ... wow!! It is beefy & powerful by comparison to the P3AT's little limp flat metal spring. Take a look at what the LCP's claw did to this brass. Failures to eject were not a problem.

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That's about the end of the obvious physical differences between the two; the extractor, recoil spring and Ruger's pseudo slidelock. I could cite weight and dimensional differences, but I'd just be repeating the specs Ruger already has on its site or you could read a professionals review here .... so let's move on.

Speaking of brass, by the way, one of the first things I thought this piece could benefit from is an LCI (loaded chamber indicator). Always a good idea for a tactile way of checking for a round in the chamber. Look for that in the next gen maybe. Meanwhile, you can skip the press-check with the LCP and check for brass at a glance. But remember, treat every gun as though it were loaded!

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The ramp on the LCP barrel seems longer. I have no data to prove that but it certainly looks it to me.

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SHOOTING or where the rubber meets the road:

I used Magtech & American Eagle each in the 95 grain flavor. And, just for fun a few rounds of Federal's JHP low-recoil (if they say so...). Magtech won this competition hands down, still the best 380 auto ammo I've shot.

Trigger pull is supposed to be around 8#s according to Ruger. I don't have any device to measure but my guess is my LCP is at least a pound lighter than that, maybe a little more. Either way, the trigger pull is long with a nice consistent breaking point. You can short stroke the reset, which I demonstrated for myself today despite having read the warnings about how to avoid that.

I didn't try doing any real accuracy tests, so no shooting from rests or bags. I'm not that good a shot to begin with and what's the point, this is a pocket 380!! Overall, I'd say accuracy under 25 feet was good. Muzzle flip and "bite" of the snappy little round is what it is, but not as bad as I was expecting it to be.

Maybe I'm just in better shape for shooting, but it used to be that a 100 rounds with a Keltec and I was done for the day. By contrast, 100 rounds with the LCP today and I was no worse for wear. *shrugs* Maybe the extra 1.22 oz. in the LCP really does make a difference in absorbing the shock. Frankly, this is where the LCP really stands head & shoulders above the Keltec P3AT. It is much easier to shoot by being much easier on the hand.

So how did it go in it's first 100 rounds? Real good. Gradewise I'd give it a solid B+

I did have 3 FTF malfunctions. The first two happened while I was shooting rapidly with strong-hand only. I switched back to two-handed grip, rapid fire and had one more FTF. Point of interest; all three FTFs happened on the next to last round from the mag. Hmmmm, this could be a sign of weak mag spring? Keep an eye on that.

Should I buy one?
If you have a Keltec you've worked with, buffed, polished and done whatever you need to make it right and you trust it, no reason to change and you probably won't anyway.

However, if you don't and are one of those who are looking at a nice little pocket pistol in 380 for warm weather carry, put the LCP at the top of a very short list, you won't be disappointed.

Bottomline:
The Ruger LCP is the next evolutionary step in little pocket 380s. Not the quantum leap advertising would have you believe, but it is a step in the right direction. It has excellent fit & finish, good price, backed by the Ruger name, quality construction and much nicer to shoot than comparable guns in its class.

Conclusion:
Ruger finally has a winner on their hands with this "Little Cool Pistol".

UPDATE: Last Saturday I visited a friend in Cincy, stopped by Target World to pop off a few. He's new to guns but I let him try my LCP. Even in the hands of a novice, 50 rounds went flawlessly through my little Ruger LCP. It just keeps getting better and better.


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Strider,
Very nice write up!
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That extractor would not be a reloaders best friend. Brass Masher! :twisted:
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Bushy M4 16" 5.56 & STG-2000C

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So, I skipped out early from work today and headed out to range that is near me and does not advertise (I have known nothing about it for years, but got clued in and was lucky enough to get in). Anyways, today was the first day this month when I have been both physically well enough, and the weather has been nice enough, to get down to some basics - shooting.

The goal today was to sight in my upper on the AR-15 (Bushy M4 16" 5.56), and do a basic function test on the STG-2000C rifle that I traded off a handgun for last month. I wanted accuracy out of the first, and reliability out of the second. And of course some fun making the boomsicks go BANG.

Off to the range and find out it has a hell of a backstop and is rather basic:

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The sun was bearing down and that target is about 3'x4' high and 25 yards out. It is heavy and since the wind was blowing I needed something that would not take off on me. Not to mention sighting in an AK might need a target that big!

Got out the AR and got ready to sight in:

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Before anyone comments, yeah, there is no sling attached. The old one I had was not very good and I need to get a new one. I have that on the "to buy" list. The first five rounds did not group all that well: about 3 inches high and 4 inches right and about 2 inches across. I did my math and adjusted to the left. I left the hight offset by 2.5" since my sights are that high off the barrel and I did not intend to lower them yet.

Next grouping was where I wanted, but still too large. Now this was the problem I had at the last appleseed, groups in the right place, just too large. Another 2 strings and I am not getting anywhere.

Now I am starting to get frustrated. I do not seem to be flinching, my breathing is ok. The trigger on the AR stinks and that may account for some of it. But another string sent down range only shows I am getting angry and it is time to back off for a minute.

So out comes the STG:

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Now, I know AK's are inaccurate, but they are just oodles of fun and I love their mechanism. Added to it, this one comes with a Tapco match trigger and I am hoping that will improve my afternoon:

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I have to say that the groups were just as accurate with the AK as the AR. And the trigger was much more pleasant. No failures, just groupings that were 4 inches high, 4 inches to the left, and 2 inches wide. Not having an AK sight tool, I could not correct the problem. But today was about function and the weapon performed well.

Done with fun, I decided to get back to work. Back to the AR. Now it dawns on me that the large peep on this upper is VERY large. So large that I may be getting some inaccuracy just from the oversized peep. So I switched to the smaller one.

Here is the 5 shot group result:

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Much better! By this time I was out of time. I boxed up the leftover ammo, put away the guns, policed up the brass, and headed home happy with the day out.

The best part was that my wife did not mind me being out late!

Now to getting that RRA trigger in the AR, a sight tool for the STG, and slings for all.

Then we move the targets out to 100 yards and play with the bigger boys. :lol:
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techres wrote:
I know AK's are inaccurate,
I have to disagree...
I was shooting with McM and we were hitting clay pigeons @ 50 and 100 yds. with our AK's.

At 25 yards, you should be wailin'!
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Savage Model 10FCM Scout Rifle

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Savage Model 10FCM Scout Rifle chambered in .308 Winchester.
Scope: Sightron 4.5-14X-42 Illuminated Mil-Dot Recticle.

I bought this rifle NIB a couple weeks ago (put a scope and bipod on it this week), and finally got to shoot it on Wednesday. Sent 60 rounds of ball ammo down range to get the gun on paper, and then have some fun shooting pop cans. Groups were around an inch at 100 yards with the ball ammo. I then thoroughly cleaned the rifle, and sent five rounds of Hornady 168 grain A-Max Match ammo down range. The group measured 5/8". I waited a few minutes and then slowly fired another 5 shot group and got a group just over 1/2" I love the accu-trigger, and brought it down to it's lightest setting which feels close to 1 pound.
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NewToMe SLR-95, Bulgarian Milled AK Clone

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I also posted this on the Zombie Squad forum, so if you read it there, feel free to skip this one.

As a wise man once said, ammo is cheaper than therapy.

Back in January I won an online gun auction for a used SLR-95. I inspected in and found it to be in as good or better shape than advertised. I haven't had the chance to fire it until today so here is my range report, for what it is worth: Its nice, really nice. Nicer than I can shoot it.

Me: An average, at best, rifleman. No rifle fire in last three months.
Weather: Around 48 degrees Fahrenheit. Winds N,NW @ 14 mph.
Ammo: Barnaul 7.62x39 FMJ 123 grain. Oddly there were only 19 rounds in the box instead of 20. Sad

The tried one round into a dirt pile, just to make sure the rifle was alright.

Here are my first 5 aimed shots: Approximately 75 yards, seated, no shooting bench, elbows on a plywood 'table' No round more than 2 inches from center. Image

Next 13 rounds: I moved back to the full 100 yards. These rounds are a mix of seated as above, and standing w/o using sling. Three fliers, which still probably would have been COM shots and the rest were 'minute of head'. Image

I really love this rifle. You know that feeling when you find a rifle that just feels right? This might be that rifle for me. I want to put a few hundred more rounds downrange, but so far I like it. The only odd thing was that it would not seat the 2 5 round ChiCom mags I use for my AKs when bench shooting. Instead I used partially loaded 30 round Bulgy waffle mags (perfect fit).

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Re sighted my CT laser on my G19 this eve.


Left target 7-8 yds. 10 rounds.
Right target 7-8 yds. 20 rounds, pulling a tad left. Shame on me!
I didn't post the target upside down, nor did I stand on my head. I had it upside down on the stand while firing.(just to clarify)

FWI, these are air rifle targets meant for 5 yds.
Pretty small.
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Marlin 1894CS

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I took the Marlin 1894CS I purchased from Ring to the Black Wing a couple of weeks ago, I shot at 40 feet and 75 feet, not far but hey its indoor.

I shot freehand (elbow on bench) with iron sights.
I wrote my original notes with the target upside down :oops:

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I took 9 shots at each bulls-eye.(yes they are all there 8) ) The .357s seemed to be more accurate than the 38 Specials.

Unfortunately my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. I couldn't even see the rings at 75 feet, and it shows on the target. But it was dead on at 40 ft. What a tack driver. I bought a scope for it and can't wait to get it to the outdoor range.
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Cashman,

I'm not implying...just commenting...those holes are so clean. They look like .22 holes.

The .357 and the .38 sp...nice!
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Jake wrote:Cashman,

I'm not implying...just commenting...those holes are so clean. They look like .22 holes.

The .357 and the .38 sp...nice!
Nope not .22s :wink: , here it is a little closer with some points of reference
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Jake wrote:I'm not implying...just commenting...those holes are so clean. They look like .22 holes.
Actually, they look like nice little SWC holes. :)
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