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rickt wrote:Marijuana may not be as "benign" as a lot of people think.

Using marijuana raises the risk of stroke and heart failure even after accounting for demographic factors, other health conditions and lifestyle risk factors such as smoking and alcohol use, according to research scheduled for presentation at the American College of Cardiology’s 66th Annual Scientific Session.

https://www.acc.org/about-acc/press-rel ... re?w_nav=S

A research study that followed children from birth up to age 38 has found that people who smoked cannabis four or more days of the week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents, with lower-paying, less skilled and less prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers. These regular and persistent users also experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of regular cannabis use progressed.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/10874

MacDonald wrote:OF COURSE cannabis impairs perception. That is why people like to use it!
duh

If perception is impaired in someone that person is not safe to drive.
If perception is impaired in someone that person is not safe to use a gun.

Both are potentially deadly weapons. Will there always be a problem? Of course not. But the probability increases.

MacDonald wrote:OF COURSE cannabis impairs perception. That is why people like to use it!
duh

If perception is impaired in someone that person is not safe to drive.
If perception is impaired in someone that person is not safe to use a gun.

Both are potentially deadly weapons. Will there always be a problem? Of course not. But the probability increases.

I agree with you that THC is less harmful than alcohol. FAR less, but that is coming from an adult child of an alcoholic.

JustaShooter wrote:True, but that in and of itself should not strip you of your RKBA. I dare say you'd find similar issues with people who drink beer 4 or more days a week over many years.

MacDonald wrote: Sobriety is not being messed up by a foreign substance. Break-ups, etc. cause people to be emotionally compromised but can still remain sober. Coffee is not illegal, and many drugs are not subject to detection. But just try to introduce that into a court of law!

2. This governmental philosophy is uniquely American. The concept of Man's rights being unalienable is based solely upon the belief in their Divine origin. Lacking this belief, there is no moral basis for any claim that they are unalienable or for any claim to the great benefits flowing from this concept. God-given rights are sometimes called Natural Rights--those possessed by Man under the Laws of Nature, meaning under the laws of God's creation and therefore by gift of God. Man has no power to alienate--to dispose of, by surrender, barter or gift--his God-given rights, according to the American philosophy. This is the meaning of "unalienable."

8. In creating governments as their tools, or instruments, and equally in continuing to maintain them--for the purpose primarily of making and keeping their unalienable rights--all Individuals composing the self-governing people impliedly and in effect consent to some degree of limitation of their freedom to exercise some of their rights. This does not involve the surrender, or the alienation, of any of these rights but only the partial, conditional and limited relinquishment of freedom to exercise a few of them and solely for the purpose of insuring the greater security and enjoyment of all of them; and, moreover, such relinquishment is always upon condition that public officials, as public servants and trustees, faithfully use the limited powers delegated to government strictly in keeping with their prescribed limits and with this limited purpose at all times. It was in this sense that George Washington, as President of the Framing Convention in September, 1787, wrote to the Congress of the Confederation--in transmitting to it, for consideration, the draft of the proposed Constitution: ". . . Individuals entering into society, must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest." Here he meant merely conditional relinquishment of liberty of action in the exercise of certain aspects of unalienable rights--not the surrender of any unalienable rights, which would be impossible because a nullity, a void act.

MacDonald wrote:"Doesn't every gas station in America sell CBD oil now?" CBD does not get people high. It puts the user to sleep and may alleviate minor pains.

THC is the canabanoid stoners are after.

And yes, there are many substances that impair a person. Sobriety is not being messed up by a foreign substance. Break-ups, etc. cause people to be emotionally compromised but can still remain sober. Coffee is not illegal, and many drugs are not subject to detection. But just try to introduce that into a court of law!