herp_man2003 wrote:Watched a couple of reviews on the nitecore mh12 today although it saves the last setting I do like that it even saves the strobe settings. It does not appear that it comes with a pocket clip and that is a must have.
herp_man2003 wrote:I was mistaken the my12 does come with a pocket clip. I also found the p12gt. I like the throw on that thing. Are there any disadvantages to having a long throw in more of a close quarters situation? Thanks Anthony
The Nitecore clips seem to be decently stout, but I really cannot make any recommendations on it either way: I just haven't really used it enough to say, one way or the other. OK, that's not completely true, I do clip it to my sweats to walk the dog, but that's not really true-EDC.
Their lanyard, though, is less than ideal. It uses a thin loop of what appears/feels to be nylon braid that's attached to the main (and rather nice) lanyard portion to gothrough the two tiny holes at the base of the light so as to anchor the lanyard to the light. Over time, that loop will both age and fray. If you like to use a lanyard, you may want to thread through paracord core yourself, instead.
In terms of throw versus short-distance use, typically, in order to obtain throw, the trade-off is spread/beam width/"cornoa" close-up.
Will this affect use?
Yes and no.
If you're indoors in an average American home, with plenty of reflective surfaces and probably even white or off-white walls and with a similarly colored ceiling,
given the high output of the light in-question, that light is going to "bounce" everywhere, and you'll more than likely light up an entire bedroom or modest living room no matter where you cast the hot-spot of that beam.
However, if you're outdoors or perhaps inside where the walls/objects are farther away (i.e. a warehouse) and thus do not facilitate that light "bouncing," you can potentially get into a situation where if the light is either not operated properly or if you scan too quickly that you literally skip over something important. Here's an example:
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^ Look at the run starting at 1:58. At the 2:07 time-point, the shooter towards the bottom of the screen (the one checked by Rogers [white hair, wearing a red strobe on his back]) turned off his light during his after-shoot search/assessment, and that led to him completely skipping over a threat due (which he returns to at ~2:15 at the urging of the instructor) to the beam shape of his WML and the dark, light-absorbing nature of the shoot-house walls.
All this is to say that while raw power (i.e. output) can sometimes compensate for shortcomings of the physical beam construct (whether it be throw or spread), there are going to be some scenarios where it's just not going to be a good fit. Bias your beam construct towards your highest-probability usage.
With most of these "civilian EDC" lights that have bezels in the 1-inch (diameter) range and body lengths around 5 to 6 inches, one of the biggest limitations is just reflector size/shape. There's really only so much you can do within the confines of those physical parameters which, if-exceeded, makes clipped pocket carry a bit bulky or otherwise unwieldy. Being able to step up to an ~1.25" diameter size for the bezel and a commensurately larger reflector can help tremendously: witness the Surefire Fury line. Unfortunately, for most of us without Bat-belts, that's a bit more bulk than we'd like for EDC.
[ Other resources to help this discussion:
http://www.breachbangclear.com/lumens-m ... they-dont/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and from the Elzetta YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAbGKr0EZDU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSOowE_LsY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (note that with these last two videos, Nitecore does supply us with their claimed Lumens and Candela specs..... ]
As for the blade my leatherman wingman has the blade on the exterior of the tool an it has very easy access. I really do like it, but I carry my spyderco on the weekend's.
I really like the blades on my Leatherman Freestyle CX (daily carry) and Wave (it's always in the range-bag), but, especially of the former, I know I cannot count on it in a defensive scenario due to the exposed-to-the-grip liner. Even the liner position of the Wave makes me think twice.... Nevertheless, they are excellent utility blades, and do lock up quite nicely!
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