It's either replacement or alternative. Uecker is one of the good guys, so that might indicate that 203 is running into problems that can't easily be resolved.rickt wrote:Hmm, could this be the replacement bill?
Senate committee schedule:Wednesdat May 14
Civil Justice
, 9:00 AM, North Hearing Room
Chair: Coley
S.B. XXX Uecker,
Informal Hearing (pending introduction and referral), Sponsor
Concealed handgun license procedure - reform
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Re: HB 203
Looks like some good stuff, but obviously HB203 would be better.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/buckeye- ... eform-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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203 had some problems. It's a shame this dropped the automatic reciprocity change though.ElBurroLoco wrote:Looks like some good stuff, but obviously HB203 would be better.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/buckeye- ... eform-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Senate gun bill makes concealed carry changes without 'stand your ground' language
Carr, the Floor Walker notes the Plain Dealer weighs in on this matter... Senate Bill 338.
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Carr, the Floor Walker notes the Plain Dealer weighs in on this matter... Senate Bill 338.
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I'm not surprised that SB 338 has been introduced and takes some of the parts of HB 203. 203 is a very large and complex bill so breaking it down into smaller chunks might be more palatable to some. I wouldn't be surprised to see action on 203 after the election.
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Hopefully, some of that action will be to salvage the good parts of it that 338 left out.MrMagoo wrote:I'm not surprised that SB 338 has been introduced and takes some of the parts of HB 203. 203 is a very large and complex bill so breaking it down into smaller chunks might be more palatable to some. I wouldn't be surprised to see action on 203 after the election.
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I'm tired & looked really quick but didn't see " and to provide that the exercise of a constitutional or statutory right is not, in itself, the offense of disorderly conduct or inducing panic and does not constitute reasonable, articulable suspicion of criminal activity."
This gone or did I just miss it?
This gone or did I just miss it?
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Search for 2917.11 and scroll down to section E.rottman43055 wrote:I'm tired & looked really quick but didn't see " and to provide that the exercise of a constitutional or statutory right is not, in itself, the offense of disorderly conduct or inducing panic and does not constitute reasonable, articulable suspicion of criminal activity."
This gone or did I just miss it?
Sub. H. B. No. 203
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Removal of the alleged SYG provisions in SB 338?...is there any TRUE replacement instead of the HB203 half baked fake??? Here's one for your (R) monitors on this board to report back to (R)HQ,..full SYG on a person's property REGARDLESS inside or out, cutting grass, pool, walking from regular parking lot to apartment, sidewalk in front of same,etc. Just like inside, but outside all the way to the property boundaries.
ALL OHIOANS should have a right to SYG anywhere on their property, REGARDLESS OF IF THERE'S A STUPID SHINGLE ABOVE THEM. That's a baseline, the rest of expansion should be the only debate!!
Remember, Ohio Conservatism is based a whole lot on...''we've done it that a-way for XXX years''. Years of doing something equals conservatism for a large part in Ohio in my observation//IMHO.
ALL OHIOANS should have a right to SYG anywhere on their property, REGARDLESS OF IF THERE'S A STUPID SHINGLE ABOVE THEM. That's a baseline, the rest of expansion should be the only debate!!
Remember, Ohio Conservatism is based a whole lot on...''we've done it that a-way for XXX years''. Years of doing something equals conservatism for a large part in Ohio in my observation//IMHO.
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While I do my daily reporting to the ORP, please tell me what you have done to elect pols who support your views and beliefs?
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Progressives ruined this country a little by little over the last 100 years. I imagine it will take the same tactic to reverse things.WhyNot wrote:is there any TRUE replacement instead of the HB203 half baked fake???
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My view is ALL people do have a "right" to SYG where SD is concerned no matter where you are & that doesn't come from our elected masters.WhyNot wrote: ALL OHIOANS should have a right to SYG anywhere on their property, REGARDLESS OF IF THERE'S A STUPID SHINGLE ABOVE THEM. That's a baseline, the rest of expansion should be the only debate!!
Like you, I'd like to see it "legal", but regardless, I'm not running ( unless it strategically helps me.)
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This is my mind-set in all situations, not because of choice but because of physical limitations. "A man's got to know his limitations". === Clint.rottman43055 wrote:My view is ALL people do have a "right" to SYG where SD is concerned no matter where you are & that doesn't come from our elected masters.WhyNot wrote: ALL OHIOANS should have a right to SYG anywhere on their property, REGARDLESS OF IF THERE'S A STUPID SHINGLE ABOVE THEM. That's a baseline, the rest of expansion should be the only debate!!
Like you, I'd like to see it "legal", but regardless, I'm not running ( unless it strategically helps me.)
