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Re: Recoil from Blanks

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:52 am
by Sevens
Not that this will help in ANY way at all, but it's on-topic: Back in one of my gun magazines from the late 80's, I vividly recall an article that reviewed a new-to-the-market product. I have no recollection of what they called it, but it was a collection of devices and hoses and fittings... and when it was all installed on your 1911-style .45 semi-auto, you had a hose running from the mag well (IIRC) down to the floor where you literally had a compressed air tank. With a longer hose, you'd simply hook it to an air compressor much like pneumatic shop tools.

The entire purpose of this getup was to simulate .45 Auto recoil in a handgun without firing any shots. Once installed, you'd pull the trigger and the slide would slam back just as if firing a round, hammer would cock and slide would go back in to battery. Nothing came out the bore other than air, and I doubt all of the air was even funneled in that direction, nor do I have any idea where the bulk of the air escaped.

It was... interesting. Looked more like an exercise than a product and I guess it never really caught on.

There's a little Cliff Claven for ya!

Re: Recoil from Blanks

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 am
by sodbuster95
Sevens wrote:Not that this will help in ANY way at all, but it's on-topic: Back in one of my gun magazines from the late 80's, I vividly recall an article that reviewed a new-to-the-market product. I have no recollection of what they called it, but it was a collection of devices and hoses and fittings... and when it was all installed on your 1911-style .45 semi-auto, you had a hose running from the mag well (IIRC) down to the floor where you literally had a compressed air tank. With a longer hose, you'd simply hook it to an air compressor much like pneumatic shop tools.

The entire purpose of this getup was to simulate .45 Auto recoil in a handgun without firing any shots. Once installed, you'd pull the trigger and the slide would slam back just as if firing a round, hammer would cock and slide would go back in to battery. Nothing came out the bore other than air, and I doubt all of the air was even funneled in that direction, nor do I have any idea where the bulk of the air escaped.

It was... interesting. Looked more like an exercise than a product and I guess it never really caught on.

There's a little Cliff Claven for ya!
The Army still uses those. There's a setup at Camp Perry which includes Beretta M9's, M-4's, and, IIRC, even some M-249's. The system is actually pretty decent and is capable of generating accurate recoil as well as locking the slides to the rear after a magazine is "empty." They have it hooked up to a projection screen and an audio system for all-around feedback in a force-on-force training scenario.