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Javelin Man
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Brian D wrote:
By the way, the stop only consumed a few minutes. If a concealed carry licensee isn't patient and even-tempered enough to put up with that (especially when he's just going to the gun store anyhow), he ought to rethink whether he's mature enough to carry.
I never mentioned that that person, or any other person, or myself would get upset, impatient, or lose their temper over a legal, though unnecessary, stop. My point, simply, is that it was a waste of resources and of peoples' time.

Perhaps the dispatcher could be trained to ask if the person in question is threatening anyone, waving it around, anything that could remotely be construed as dangerous, or is the gun merely sitting in a holster attached to the person in plain sight? I would think if the dispatcher receives the call first and asks those questions, the "Man with a gun!" call could be taken care of without any trouble or inconvenience by the officers. They would be free to finish their donuts and the innocent CHL holder can get his groceries home before the milk gets warm.
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Maybe what you suggest will happen in time, Javelin Man. It would surely be a smart thing for the dispatchers to ask.
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It would surely be a smart thing for the dispatchers to ask.
That would be too much to request, wouldn't it? Here's hoping, though! When HB 347 gets passed, we can eliminate a lot of this foolishness.
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2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
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Glockulator wrote :
.......all the while he is probably breaking our speed limit laws and keeping two sets of his own log books

SSSHHHHHH.... that's an ancient Chinese secret for truckers against the D.O.T. :lol: :lol:
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Brian D. wrote:Maybe what you suggest will happen in time, Javelin Man. It would surely be a smart thing for the dispatchers to ask.
:cry: Why does JM get your support while I get the explanation? We were essentially saying the same thing! Not that I have a problem with what you said to me because it's accurate and fair. I just think that MORE accurate and fair would be the dispatcher doing what they can to make sure they're managing those on patrol optimally. Would've spared me my experience to say the least. More importantly, it would BEGIN to educate those out there that guns should not equate to fear. I'm sure every LEO out there would rather deal with a calm person than a panicked one. To resonate that guns are only worth calling the police over if the person being called about is comitting a crime, it would calm the public a bit while helping to avoid the miscommunications that you accurately stated will occur as a byproduct of human imperfection.
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Why does JM get your support while I get the explanation? We were essentially saying the same thing!
True that, DS. You eloquently stated it and I repeated it. I liked your analogy of the brown paper bag, but couldn't figure a way to use it.
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3. You Were An Accident
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Javelin Man wrote:
Why does JM get your support while I get the explanation? We were essentially saying the same thing!
True that, DS. You eloquently stated it and I repeated it. I liked your analogy of the brown paper bag, but couldn't figure a way to use it.
What the heck I'll say it: I've come to pigeonhole you as being too emotional and reactionary Dan, to the point that it's like a never-ending cycle for you. Your way of seeing things as rather absolute, and going about your day with said mindset, appear to get you into more piles of legal doo-doo that the rest of us combined, which seems to make you more emotional and reactionary, which gets you into more doo-doo...etc. etc.

Just my opinion of course, but it's come to shade my thinking towards you, which is perhaps not completely fair, but...

My fervent hope is that you are proven to be in the right re the Oregon situation, and that you perhaps LEARN SOMETHING from it. (Sorry to stray into that other thread, Moderators.)

By way of comparison, my little group of shooting pals have roughly two hundred years of combined concealed carry under our belts (pun intended), much of it pre-license under the "prudent man" doctrine here in Ohio. And between us we've had virtually no encounters with law enforcement, and certainly none like yours. So I keep asking myself: 'What are we doing so right, are we just lucky?' Nah, that's not it.

I'll butt out of this thread for a spell now. Dan, feel free to PM me if you wish to communicate futher on the topic, I feel funny being on my soapbox even this long..
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