Good firearm shops in Dayton?

[Petrovich]

It was an FN49, not a bolt gun, but semi auto.
I had fired about 700 rds, out of then tried some ammo out of Hansen, (now out of business) Century Arms thought it was a round of ammo that kept rifle from full lock up, but enough to allow it to fire.
Century replaced it, but Gunsport was not happy about it.

Bad round or not, the gun malfunctioned if it fired out of battery.

Century has had those rifles for well over a year now.....these were the ones for the Argentine navy??? Some were chambered in .308 as I recall. I was thinking about getting one, but the 600 bucks kept me away.

That's one to remember. Even something of the quality of FN will occasionally be defective.

[Petrovich]

Just went to Vandalia Tactical this weekend, I liked it - nice clean store, good selection (although prices were pretty much MSRP). Good selection of accessories too.

I think i'll go back next week and pick up a CQC holster.

I know it's a ways from Dayton, but if we have what yer after give us a visit at Buckeye Outdoors. I won't say 'never' but I have YET to see a price on a firearm that was MSRP....that's just plain ridiculous.

Not only that, but we ALWAYS have guns on sale. I've worked there for three months, but I have bought guns there for YEARS and it's hard to beat their prices.

Occasionally, I could beat their prices by going to AIM, but that's about it and AIM, of course, has a limited selection.

I won't pretend to know sales strategy, but unlike conventional gun stores, Buckeye has all kinds of other departments such as boats, fishing, apparel and tons of accessories. My guess is that the gun department isn't the most profitable department but IT GETS PEOPLE IN THE STORE. Once in the store they will also buy from departments with better markups.

A dedicated gun store has to make all it's profits from the sales of guns and related equipment. I figure it has to price high because of that.

[Mad Duck]

This was back in 1992/1993
Like I said it had been flawless until the hanson ammo.
2 rds & boom, after over 700 rds of old surplus.
It was thought at the time that the round was just long enough to keep it from fully locking, but enough the rifle thought it was locked, if you know what I mean, like within less than 1/1000th of an inch.
I was tempted to try it again when the 308's came out.

[Petrovich]

This was back in 1992/1993
Like I said it had been flawless until the hanson ammo.
2 rds & boom, after over 700 rds of old surplus.
It was thought at the time that the round was just long enough to keep it from fully locking, but enough the rifle thought it was locked, if you know what I mean, like within less than 1/1000th of an inch.
I was tempted to try it again when the 308's came out.

Just goes to show you nothing is ever for certain. I am not familiar with the lockup on a FN49, but I'd love to have a look at one. Is it a rotating bolt, or some other kind of animal like a SKS?

Simonovs have a tilting bolt lockup that doesn't inspire me with a huge amount of confidence, but it does seem to work ok.

If it is a rotating bolt, I guess it's possible for the bolt to go to battery and the lugs be engaged enough to let the rifle fire, but not enough to prevent a kaboom. That round must have been PERFECTLY bad.

Military surplus is typically loaded hot, and all 8mm I have ever fired was pretty darn hot stuff. I don't even use the stuff anymore as it's corrosive and way overloaded. I did buy some stuff that was very inexpensive just to pull the bullets, though.

Century currently has the FN49's for sale in .308. They are way overpriced though, they want 600 bucks for them. These were made for the Argentine Navy. Other FN49's were chambered in .06 as well.

[NavyChief]

Petrofergov -
Thought I'd click on your "www" thinking it'd link me to Buckeye Outdoors maybe. But PETA???

[CurtInOhio]

Petrofergov -
Thought I'd click on your "www" thinking it'd link me to Buckeye Outdoors maybe. But PETA???

Having ethically treated animals around gives us more targets during hunting season, right?

I'm a bbq'er, and love the quote: "If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat."

Back to the post, does anyone know a local shop that carries Cor Bon ammo? I don't know if Olde English does, but that's a bit of a drive... somewhere south of downtown, or in north Cincy. I haven't checked yet.. just wondered if anyone knew of one for sure.

[Brian D.]

Curt, down here in SW Ohio, Targetworld in Sharonville (east of Tri- County Mall on Kemper Rd.) has a small amount of Cor Bon, and they sort of lead the pack, sad to say. If you get over the Ohio River into N. Ky. at some point, Mark's Guns on Dixie Highway (at about 7200 U.S. 25 address-wise) carries a fair supply of Cor Bon, but at full retail.

I think Olde English or perhaps Vandalia Tactical stock some, too, going in the other direction.

[CurtInOhio]

Ok, with that said, can you buy ammo online? I haven't tried to yet.

[Brian_Horton]

You sure can. I buy most of my ammo online or from AIM Surplus in Middletown. It is cheaper than buying from gun stores, especially when you buy it in bulk. It is hard to get 10mm in gun stores and they usually want $20 for a box fo 50 FMJ practice rounds. I can get the same stuff from Georgia Arms for $10 a box if I buy them a 1000 rounds at a time. Paying shipping instead of sales tax usually doesn't change your total cost much, plus you have alot more ammo options.

[Petrovich]

Petrofergov -
Thought I'd click on your "www" thinking it'd link me to Buckeye Outdoors maybe. But PETA???

I gotta change that. I was lampooning a situation that occured on this forum involving a character of the feline persuasion.

Unfortunately Buckeye does not have a website. I know.....ridiculous isn't it? I like my boss and all, but they aren't the kind of people who take suggestions. The want to think of things first. I'm sure you are familiar with folks like that. I have made several suggestions for some really cool products and not one has ever been followed up on..I've thought about mentioning a website, but I'd rather not based on my experiences.

[NavyChief]

I was lampooning a situation that occured on this forum involving a character of the feline persuasion.

Oh good. I figured it was probably something like that...

They want to think of things first. ... I have made several suggestions for some really cool products and not one has ever been followed up on..I've thought about mentioning a website, but I'd rather not based on my experiences.

The best way to get people to accept your ideas to to make them think they thought of them. (Believe it or not, I've actually done this on occasion so blatantly it shouldn't have worked - "Well I got the idea from you Commander - remember just last week you were saying...")

A close second is to tell them Benjamin Franklin thought of it first.

[Petrovich]

As a store we get all kinds of calls from people inquiring about what we have in stock and how much it is.

Now, our business is a VERY dynamic one; and I give the owners credit. They are very astute business people, and they know that the way to get the business is by staying competitive on prices, and keeping a close eye on the market.

I am amazed at our gun department director, he's been doing it for years of course; but he knows a tremendous amount just off the top of his head.

It does seem to me, however, that if they had a website they'd get a lot of people into the 'virtual store' and we'd have a slew of online shoppers. I point to Midway's website. Man, that is a heckuva piece of work, I can log on there at anytime and look for things I need and get prices too. I don't have to call them on the phone and be on hold and all that stuff either.

Obviously, we couldn't sell firearms over the internet to the public. But if folks could check out our inventory online, and see how good our prices are, I bet they'd make the trip to the store. I peruse AIM's website often and I have made several 4 hour round trips for a good deal over the years.

Maybe a website is in our future. That kind of website would have to be managed professionally and that is expensive.