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Brownells and C&R

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Brownells and C&R

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I sent my first order into Brownells for a couple Wolff spring kits for my 1911.

After ordering, I remember hearing that Brownells gives discounts to C&R holders. So, I sent in a copy of my C&R after I'd already placed the order.

I just received a nice letter from Brownells along with their latest catalog. The letter tells me that that I can get discounts on pretty much anything they sell that a dealer would resale. Holy smokes!

If you fellas with C&R haven't already, send a copy of your license to Brownells! Beside a cool catalog you won't believe the discounts!

Without a doubt, the C&R license is the best $30 I've spent on this hobby.

Now that I think about it, maybe it's the worst... :roll:
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Make sure to send your C&R to MidwayUSA and Graf's as well (let alone all of the C&R retailers).

The discount on all of my reloading equipment was well worth the $30 fee in itself. :)
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OK...I feel retarded...C&R????
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PAJOHNOHIO wrote:OK...I feel retarded...C&R????
A type of FFL. It's very easy to get and saves you alot of money on the purchase of old firearms, and accessories.

In a nutshell, it lets you buy guns 50 years old and older at wholesale. It also lets you ship and receive qualified firearms directly to and from your home.

Guns in the mail! :D I love the Big Brown Truck of Happiness!

Read more about it here
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Curio and Relics license
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McGyver wrote:Curio and Relics license
Thanks for the concise definition...I was waiting for that.
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I haven't used my C&R to buy a firearm from the "big guys". I have bought a few in person. I have saved a few hundred dollars on orders from Midway & Graf's. That savings alone is well worth the cost of the license.

$30, a simple background check and a few weeks wait is all you need. Less trouble than a CCP.
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In the post it says that the C&R license is only available to FFL license holders only. Is this true?
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Jronjakoh wrote:In the post it says that the C&R license is only available to FFL license holders only. Is this true?
If you get your C&R, it IS your FFL, you just have to follow their limitations as they pertain to C&R eligible firearms only.
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I've been getting really interested in the C&R FFL. I've read a couple sites about the perks and limitations the license offers - but I had a couple questions I haven't seen answered.
I understand you're not a dealer once you get the license, but what happens when you buy a C&R item, and the bloom goes off the rose and you want to "trade up?"

Are you able to sell that item like any other firearm - at a gun show or in a FTF transaction? Only to another C&R license holder? Or is it "yours forever" once it's in your bound book?

Also, you can only buy stuff that's C&R legal. But, for example, if you were to buy a C&R SKS, would you be allowed to change the furniture, etc. on it (Bubbify it with some of the Tapco offerings) if you do all required for the number of U.S.-made compliance parts, or must you keep it only and forever in its original C&R configurations?

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I got the paperwork for my C&R in the mail from the ATF but its just collecting dust. Is a C&R something I can do myself or something I need to get a lawyer to do correctly? I know I could just look at the thing, if I could find it, but I figure someone here should be able to give me a short answer, since a few of you already have yours.
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DaveT wrote:I've been getting really interested in the C&R FFL. I've read a couple sites about the perks and limitations the license offers - but I had a couple questions I haven't seen answered.
I understand you're not a dealer once you get the license, but what happens when you buy a C&R item, and the bloom goes off the rose and you want to "trade up?"

Are you able to sell that item like any other firearm - at a gun show or in a FTF transaction? Only to another C&R license holder? Or is it "yours forever" once it's in your bound book?

Also, you can only buy stuff that's C&R legal. But, for example, if you were to buy a C&R SKS, would you be allowed to change the furniture, etc. on it (Bubbify it with some of the Tapco offerings) if you do all required for the number of U.S.-made compliance parts, or must you keep it only and forever in its original C&R configurations?

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You can sell or trade you C&R guns anyone that is legally allowed to own them. You just have to take the gun out of your bound book. Meaning you have to record the purchasers name and address. Or their FFL license number. What you can't do is buy a bunch of them, pick the cherry of the bunch and sell the rest. Or start buying them at a discount for your friends. The ATF expects you to trade up, or have your collection change direction. It's when you start selling them like a dealer would that they get a bit miffed.

I've read that a Bubbified rifle is no longer C&R eligible since it is no longer in it original configuration. I've never looked into it to be sure since Bubba's work holds no interest for me.
Glock wrote:I got the paperwork for my C&R in the mail from the ATF but its just collecting dust. Is a C&R something I can do myself or something I need to get a lawyer to do correctly? I know I could just look at the thing, if I could find it, but I figure someone here should be able to give me a short answer, since a few of you already have yours.
All you have to do is fill out the form and mail it back. The hardest part is trying to figure out who the chief LEO is in your area. (According to the paperwork, you must notify, in writing, the chief law enforcement officer in your area that you intend to collect C&Rs)

The chief LEO doesn’t have to take any action that you have to wait on. You merely have to inform him of your intent to get the C&R. For me, I had to send my letter to the Sheriff. Here's a copy of the standard internet form letter that most people have used.

Dear Chief Localpolice:

Enclosed please find, as per federal regulation, a copy of my ATF Form 7CR. You are not required to take any action with respect to the enclosed form. If I can be of any service, or if there are any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at the address above. With kindest regards, I remain

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ArcherAce wrote:
Glock wrote:I got the paperwork for my C&R in the mail from the ATF but its just collecting dust. Is a C&R something I can do myself or something I need to get a lawyer to do correctly? I know I could just look at the thing, if I could find it, but I figure someone here should be able to give me a short answer, since a few of you already have yours.
All you have to do is fill out the form and mail it back. The hardest part is trying to figure out who the chief LEO is in your area. (According to the paperwork, you must notify, in writing, the chief law enforcement officer in your area that you intend to collect C&Rs)

The chief LEO doesn’t have to take any action that you have to wait on. You merely have to inform him of your intent to get the C&R. For me, I had to send my letter to the Sheriff. Here's a copy of the standard internet form letter that most people have used.

Dear Chief Localpolice:

Enclosed please find, as per federal regulation, a copy of my ATF Form 7CR. You are not required to take any action with respect to the enclosed form. If I can be of any service, or if there are any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at the address above. With kindest regards, I remain

Very truly yours,


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Do you have to send a copy of your paperwork in with the letter or the actual paperwork itself?

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Glock wrote:Do you have to send a copy of your paperwork in with the letter or the actual paperwork itself?
You do not. Here's an excellent site with all kinds of information. This specific link takes you step by step thru filling out your C&R application:

Link

This site is shutting down in a couple months, so read as much as you can! I have printed out numerous assembly manuals that are invaluable. I just noticed there is a link to a new site that they are putting up, so hopefully most if it will be re-created there.
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MeanStreaker wrote:
Glock wrote:Do you have to send a copy of your paperwork in with the letter or the actual paperwork itself?
You do not. Here's an excellent site with all kinds of information. This specific link takes you step by step thru filling out your C&R application:

Link

This site is shutting down in a couple months, so read as much as you can! I have printed out numerous assembly manuals that are invaluable. I just noticed there is a link to a new site that they are putting up, so hopefully most if it will be re-created there.
I know how to copy entire sites and rehost them if they're going down.

P.S. - Thanks for the link, and I see that the papers I got are two copies of the same thing, one for the ATF and one for the CLEO! :)
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