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Post by MySQLQuery »

XD-shawn wrote:i have no idea where oregon is, but i'll drive to do a open carry walk, as others have said if we let this one slide who knows what the rest of us will have to deal with, i wish you the best of luck dan and i hope in the end you make the court system as well as the local PD look like a bunch of a**es :roll:
I feel the same, please check 'Ohio Politics" :)
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Full Auto?????????????

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Man, what a joke. Sorry you have to go through this crap.

I have not read the billion posts here, so sorry if this was already said:

Enough with the "full auto assault rifle" in the op. You sound like some typical anti-gun person who knows nothing about guns(I am sure this is not the case). "Full auto," I think not. I doubt it was even 3 round burst capable. Yes, it is a scary looking rifle, but remember that any deer rifle will do more damage than a .233!(but they can all kill you just the same)
I don't mean to be a jerk, I just don't like scare tactics being used against guns.

Again, I hope all turns out in your favor. I can't stand it when cops abuse their power!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by BEAR! »

Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.
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BEAR! wrote:Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.
Triple word score for BEAR! (good job with the volumious) and a big welcome to PPete!!!

I wondered the same thing, I must have missed that it was full auto..

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Post by PAJOHNOHIO »

OldManTod wrote:
BEAR! wrote:Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.
Triple word score for BEAR! (good job with the volumious) and a big welcome to PPete!!!

I wondered the same thing, I must have missed that it was full auto..

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But don't lose sight. Initially this was a felony stop. They were well within their protocols and standards for a felony stop!
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PAJOHNOHIO wrote:
OldManTod wrote:
BEAR! wrote:Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.
Triple word score for BEAR! (good job with the volumious) and a big welcome to PPete!!!

I wondered the same thing, I must have missed that it was full auto..

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But don't lose sight. Initially this was a felony stop. They were well within their protocols and standards for a felony stop!
Correct, I just recall that Dan indicated what type of firearm, but it was so long ago that I forgot the officer informed him of it..

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Post by GWC »

Its probably one of the M16A1 that the federal gov't is giving away to PDs all over the country.
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Post by pistolpete »

BEAR! wrote:Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.
WOW!
Why in the hell would an officer say that? Did he say this after or while it was pointed at him?(either way it is a dumb thing to say, even if true)
I still do not believe that LEOs have full auto ARs. There is no need for it and it endangers the surrounding people. Most military ARs are not even full auto anymore.

Anyway, please not ammo for the AWB freaks!!!!!!!!

OldManTod, thanks for the welcome.
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Post by MR D »

pistolpete wrote:
BEAR! wrote:Pete, Dan in an earlier post in this voluminous thread said that the officer told him it was full auto.

I still do not believe that LEOs have full auto ARs. There is no need for it and it endangers the surrounding people. Most military ARs are not even full auto anymore.
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I looked, it was there!!:shock:

MOST larger departments and probably all that have SRT or SWAT capability have ful;l autos.... 8)
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Post by SMMAssociates »

I know I've posted this before....

Back in the late 60's or early 70's - during the riots - a buddy of mine was working solo guarding a bank. One of the Youngstown PD Sergeants drove by and offered him a Reising. My buddy declined.

A few hours later, while I was checking in long guns at the PD, I found out that gun had never been officially signed out....

They had a couple Thompsons (I never saw those - the Detectives kept them for "difficult" arrests) and a bunch of Reisings. The latter being a .45ACP submachine gun that looks like a fat copy of an M1 Carbine. WWII or Korean War surplus, I expect. Also a mountain of ancient shotguns.

Kicking myself - at the time all I had to do was ask if I wanted to shoot one of those. The rangemaster was a good friend, and needed little inducement to go shoot something.

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Post by haspelbein »

As far as full auto is concerned I have seen a full-auto AR, (several) 9mm Uzis, and (several) M14s at a local police department. They also appeared to be the most pro-CCW LEOs I've met so far.
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Re: Full Auto?????????????

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pistolpete wrote:"Full auto," I think not.
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Post by GWC »

Most police departments have full auto weapons. Many that did not now do. the US gov't is giving away free M16A1s to PDs all over the country and many departments buy H&K MP5s at deep discounts. A lot of old Tommy guns were traded in for those MP5s. Even small rural departments have them.
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GWC wrote:Most police departments have full auto weapons. Many that did not now do. the US gov't is giving away free M16A1s to PDs all over the country and many departments buy H&K MP5s at deep discounts. A lot of old Tommy guns were traded in for those MP5s. Even small rural departments have them.
A college friend (who just got back from Iraq) once told me that the St. Louis PD had a room full of M1928A1s. Somebody offered them 2-3 for one trades on MP5s, to which the SLPD just sneered.
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Post by Ursus americanus »

If I was a LEO I would prefer a Shotgun with deer slug rather than an auto in .223.

Deer slug would definitely put down a BG faster than an auto up close.
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