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[mcrik]

https://youtu.be/85WFnVzLENA?feature=shared

[Brian D.]

Some years ago one or two of those brothers were very active in Ohio gun rights, spending a fair amount of time talking to our elected officials. Very confrontational "in your face" style though, and didn't try very hard to get along with folks from the other gun rights groups, in my opinion. As I recall one of more of them registered and posted briefly and rudely on this forum, got kicked out.

Nowadays they appear to be attempting to (or acting like they're attempting to) do the same thing in several statehouses at once.

[JustaShooter]

My interactions with them, specifically Chris Dorr, have been... mixed, to say the least. Although he did in fact do some lobbying at the Ohio Statehouse a few years back, I saw much of what the YouTube video talked about.

We, OFCC, did work with them on a couple of initiatives, and I even sat down with Chris to go over wording in a bill both organizations were pushing for at the time (a version of SYG) that had literally everything related to SYG you could ever want. It went nowhere - in large part because of their "no compromise" scorched earth scare tactics, and alienating the very legislators OFCC had been courting for the previous two decades. In fact, one of the legislators during one of our lobby days told us if Dorr was with us, he wouldn't meet with us - and this was a very strong conservative pro-gun legislator. Another warned us that our association with him was damaging OFCC's brand.

When I confronted Chris about the tactics, he threatened me and OFCC - but in the next breath said I didn't understand how to get things done and we should sit down over a cup of coffee where he would explain it all.

More recently, after taking credit for bills OFCC helped pass (and that he literally lobbied against and used in his incessant fundraising by opposing since they weren't "pure" enough) when it was clear Ohio was going to get both SYG and unlicensed carry in spite of his efforts, he ran to PA to set up yet another organization.

[Brian D.]

https://youtu.be/85WFnVzLENA?feature=shared

JustaShooter summed it up accurately and concisely. Not surprising since JaS spent a good deal of time at the Statehouse in those days. I was there once at the same time as C. Dorr, on my own because of being in Columbus one day with an hour or so to spare for a visit with a couple legislators I knew, and had a similar interaction with the guy. After that Dorr and I communicated via computer a few times, and he got rather impolite. "My way or the highway" was the vibe.