FormerNavy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:19 am
I would love to see the demise of the criminality of violating a CPZ sign... but right now I think we have something bigger to worry about. The Libs have woken up and realized that modifying the Ohio constitution is the way to go (to wit: Issue 1 & 2).... and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is the new avenue that gun control will attempt to take. And honestly, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they could get it to pass. As K says in Men in Black, "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
Actually the anti gunners had already thought of this, before this election, it's just that their polling numbers weren't what they wanted in Ohio on the subject of gun control. I have a far left liberal Democrat relative who is a member of MDA and other anti gun groups. She was almost glowing over the results yesterday, and she literally said that she hopes this will lead to "common sense" ""gun safety" measures being enacted by the people, and maybe turning the statehouse from red to blue.
I don't normally challenge her on anything she says because I want to hear what the other side is thinking, regardless of whether I agree with it or not. Also because I know it won't change her mind no matter what I say. What's that old saying, "Don't try to teach a pig to sing." ?
Anyway, my thought when I heard this was "Not so fast". The polling supported issues 1 & 2 well before election day, and she didn't have any results of any new polling yet. I thought yesterday that the election wasn't a approval of more government restrictions, more like the opposite.
I listened to many women on issue 1, conservative republican women and men, and there was a surprising number that on issue one specifically, that the bill that the statehouse passed and the governor signed went too far. It didn't help when the story of the little girl who was raped and got pregnant had to go to Indy to get an abortion.
I know many people in my area who are officially Republicans but their political views are closer to libertarian than the far right on every issue.
When I woke up this morning I saw this, sounds relevant.
https://www.whio.com/news/local/what-pa ... LBFFR4LQY/
News Center 7′s Xavier Hershovitz talked with a political expert about what the passing of both issues means for Ohio’s future.
“I think it goes back partly to the freedom issue,” Dr. Marc Clauson, professor of history and law at Cedarville University said.
He said with both issues voters made clear they don’t want the government making personal decisions.
“Both I think turned on that kind of concept to freedom to do what we want to do based on our own preferences,” Clauson said.