SB58
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SB58
First, here's a link:
https://www.ohiochannel.org/video/ohio- ... -5-10-2023
The first forty-some minutes are Senators Johnson and Gavarone, (two Terry's) introducing their bill to the House Insurance Committee.
Senate Bill 58 amends ORC 9.68 by prohibiting political subdivisions from requiring liability insurance or requiring fees to legally own a firearm.
My off the wall predicition is that this bill becomes this sessions lame duck Christmas tree
https://www.ohiochannel.org/video/ohio- ... -5-10-2023
The first forty-some minutes are Senators Johnson and Gavarone, (two Terry's) introducing their bill to the House Insurance Committee.
Senate Bill 58 amends ORC 9.68 by prohibiting political subdivisions from requiring liability insurance or requiring fees to legally own a firearm.
My off the wall predicition is that this bill becomes this sessions lame duck Christmas tree
Ain't activism fun?
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And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
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Re: SB58
Chuck and Bearable, before I go to the trouble of reading it, please tell me whether or not this proposed new law has enforcement teeth. If not, well, it's hard for me to care much.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: SB58
It's amending 9.68 so I guess it depends on whether or not you think 9.68 has teeth. The attorneys fees provision is there but not much else.
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Re: SB58
Nope
Enforcement's the same
Just adding to the list.
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: SB58
I certainly don't. Smells like fresh garbage to me. Thanks for replying though, seriously.FormerNavy wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm
It's amending 9.68 so I guess it depends on whether or not you think 9.68 has teeth.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: SB58
Thanks Chuck. Guess I'll have to find something else to be happy about today.

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Re: SB58
Like you I would like to see some legal punishment for big city politicians who violate the constitution, because it seems they don't care about merely wasting the taxpayers money by passing ordinances that currently violate 9.68 I do however think adding these two to the list of 9.68 violations is a good thing however because I know the anti gun zealots are trying to get politicians to pass anything they can. Of the two, what I've heard the strongest is the insurance part. Occasionally I hear a complaint about how a politician in a certain city in Ohio "doesn't have the courage to do what Columbus did" because he (the politician) used the excuse that it would be taken to court and cities have already lost in court on previous gun issues thanks to 9.68. Big city politicians hate 9.68 with a passion but it does give a few cities pause.
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Re: SB58
I'm working on a law review in regards to RC §§ 2923.12 and 2923.16 as being unconstitutional per Heller and Bruen. And to show that RC § 9.68 is a contradiction in of itself. It says the state knows that the state has no Constitutional authority to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms then says the state is going to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms.
I'm hoping to have this law review completed by the end of next week.
I'm hoping to have this law review completed by the end of next week.
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I would love to know about your review, and if there is any way I can help.Bearable wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 9:17 am I'm working on a law review in regards to RC §§ 2923.12 and 2923.16 as being unconstitutional per Heller and Bruen. And to show that RC § 9.68 is a contradiction in of itself. It says the state knows that the state has no Constitutional authority to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms then says the state is going to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms.
I'm hoping to have this law review completed by the end of next week.
I agree with your premise, even though I had a hand in crafting many of the laws you wish to repeal.
I played the hand I was dealt and make no apologies and I sincerely hope that some young whippersnapper will help carry the ball the rest of the way. I'm all tuckered out.
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: SB58
Come on now Chuck..look at it this way..Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, just to name a few..kidding of course..No pay hard work lots of time spent..You did a great job keeping us clowns going.
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