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First, here's a link:
https://www.ohiochannel.org/video/ohio- ... -5-10-2023

The first forty-some minutes are Senators Johnson and Gavarone, (two Terry's) introducing their bill to the House Insurance Committee.
Senate Bill 58 amends ORC 9.68 by prohibiting political subdivisions from requiring liability insurance or requiring fees to legally own a firearm.

My off the wall predicition is that this bill becomes this sessions lame duck Christmas tree
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Wow, having to pass a statute that gives notice to those persons who took an oath to not violate the Ohio and U.S. constitution. What a novel idea.
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Chuck and Bearable, before I go to the trouble of reading it, please tell me whether or not this proposed new law has enforcement teeth. If not, well, it's hard for me to care much.
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Brian D. wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:42 pm Chuck and Bearable, before I go to the trouble of reading it, please tell me whether or not this proposed new law has enforcement teeth. If not, well, it's hard for me to care much.
It's amending 9.68 so I guess it depends on whether or not you think 9.68 has teeth. The attorneys fees provision is there but not much else.
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Brian D. wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:42 pm Chuck and Bearable, before I go to the trouble of reading it, please tell me whether or not this proposed new law has enforcement teeth. If not, well, it's hard for me to care much.
Nope
Enforcement's the same
Just adding to the list.
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FormerNavy wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm
It's amending 9.68 so I guess it depends on whether or not you think 9.68 has teeth.
I certainly don't. Smells like fresh garbage to me. Thanks for replying though, seriously.
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Chuck wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 6:14 pm
Nope
Enforcement's the same
Just adding to the list.
Thanks Chuck. Guess I'll have to find something else to be happy about today. :mrgreen:
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Brian D. wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:42 pm Chuck and Bearable, before I go to the trouble of reading it, please tell me whether or not this proposed new law has enforcement teeth. If not, well, it's hard for me to care much.
Like you I would like to see some legal punishment for big city politicians who violate the constitution, because it seems they don't care about merely wasting the taxpayers money by passing ordinances that currently violate 9.68 I do however think adding these two to the list of 9.68 violations is a good thing however because I know the anti gun zealots are trying to get politicians to pass anything they can. Of the two, what I've heard the strongest is the insurance part. Occasionally I hear a complaint about how a politician in a certain city in Ohio "doesn't have the courage to do what Columbus did" because he (the politician) used the excuse that it would be taken to court and cities have already lost in court on previous gun issues thanks to 9.68. Big city politicians hate 9.68 with a passion but it does give a few cities pause.
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I'm working on a law review in regards to RC §§ 2923.12 and 2923.16 as being unconstitutional per Heller and Bruen. And to show that RC § 9.68 is a contradiction in of itself. It says the state knows that the state has no Constitutional authority to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms then says the state is going to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms.

I'm hoping to have this law review completed by the end of next week.
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Bearable wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 9:17 am I'm working on a law review in regards to RC §§ 2923.12 and 2923.16 as being unconstitutional per Heller and Bruen. And to show that RC § 9.68 is a contradiction in of itself. It says the state knows that the state has no Constitutional authority to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms then says the state is going to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms.

I'm hoping to have this law review completed by the end of next week.
I would love to know about your review, and if there is any way I can help.
I agree with your premise, even though I had a hand in crafting many of the laws you wish to repeal.
I played the hand I was dealt and make no apologies and I sincerely hope that some young whippersnapper will help carry the ball the rest of the way. I'm all tuckered out.
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Come on now Chuck..look at it this way..Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, just to name a few..kidding of course..No pay hard work lots of time spent..You did a great job keeping us clowns going.
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