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nu3gawhat
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Comment on ATF Regulation Proposals

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There are currently 2 separate Regulation Proposals up for comment.

Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached "Stabilizing Braces"
https://www.regulations.gov/document/ATF-2021-0002-0001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Which will effectively turn nearly all of the 10's of millions of braced pistols into NFA SBR's. Turning millions on gun owners into felons.

They propose a points system which turns just about every brace and braced pistol configuration into an SBR, including ones they have previously approved. They even leave it up to their own subjective discretion to turn something that does in fact meet their point system into an SBR if they don't like it.

and

Definition of Frame or Receiver and Identification of Firearms
https://www.regulations.gov/document/ATF-2021-0001-0001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Which will do several things.

They are seeking the ability to set criteria to determine whether a unfinished frame or receiver (80% and kits) will be treated as a firearm not based on how much machining has been done, but based on their determination on how "Readily" one could finish one into a firearm.

Also to determine that split frame receivers, like an AR15 or semi-auto pistol, that house any fire control component, will all be considered a receiver or frame. This will turn upper/lower receivers in a rifle or slides and frame in a pistol both into serialized legal firearms.

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Frame or receiver. A part of a firearm that, when the complete weapon is assembled, is visible from the exterior and provides housing or a structure designed to hold or integrate one or more fire control components, even if pins or other attachments are required to connect those components to the housing or structure. Any such part identified with a serial number shall be presumed, absent an official determination by the Director or other reliable evidence to the contrary, to be a frame or receiver. For purposes of this definition, the term ‘‘fire control component’’ means a component necessary for the firearm to initiate, complete, or continue the firing sequence, including any of the following: Hammer, bolt, bolt carrier, breechblock,cylinder, trigger mechanism, firing pin, striker, or slide rails.
They exempt many current classifications saying this will only apply to new designs and configurations, for now of course to get their foot in the door.

They are also changing the record retention requirements for dealers, from 20 years to indefinite.

They will disregard your comments if you don't reference the docket number and include your full name and mail address. Or use profanity. You can find this under the IV. Public Participation
A. Comments Sought section.
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Thnx for the links!


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Well, that horse has left the barn I guess. So best cancer is...one treated earliest, easiest, which is the comment period.

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Re: Comment on ATF Regulation Proposals

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Sorely tempted to leave just one word as my comment:
no.
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Today by midnight EDT is the deadline for commenting on Definition of Frame or Receiver and Identification of Firearms.

The following link will get you to a GOA page that makes it easy to comment. It is not a direct link to GOA. I think what happens is various subjects are generated by the link so people using the GOA page are not all submitting the same subject line. Once on the GOA page, you are able to use the subject created for you or replace it with something that better fits the statement you want to make.

https://www.votervoice.net/BroadcastLin ... MKS8_PN8_g
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Re: Comment on ATF Regulation Proposals

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Ultimately this is going to be resolved in court.

I think the game is played out like this; they put up some fermented 15 point proposal. Ppl comment. They 'tweak' it a wee bit (in areas they put in purposefully to be...tweaked) such as, point #6. They then can sat ''see, we responded to the wills of the peoples :wink: ''

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