Are you willing to bet your life on the hope that the politicians will fix this?DontTreadOnMe wrote:I'm usually pretty skeptical but I agree this will get a quick fix exactly because the problem isn't limited to the Shockwave. It muddies the waters for all non-NFA guns over 26 inches in length.
Support The Forums:
The forums have been hosted for some time now out of my pocket. We are coming up on the annual domain renewal for ohioccwforums.org and I pay roughly $20/month to keep the forums online. I do this to maintain the long-standing history of discussions here indexed in Google, and so that people have a place to discuss this topic outside of modern social media censorship. If you enjoy the forums and you'd like to help offset the cost, please consider a venmo donation hereHB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
Moderators: Chuck, Mustang380gal, Coordinators, Moderators
-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
-
DontTreadOnMe
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 1750
- Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 11:11 am
- Location: SW Ohio
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
You're being paranoid. The State of Ohio cannot make it illegal to possess long guns. No one is going to be prosecuted for their ARs or other currently-legal guns over this wording.Liberty wrote:Are you willing to bet your life on the hope that the politicians will fix this?DontTreadOnMe wrote:I'm usually pretty skeptical but I agree this will get a quick fix exactly because the problem isn't limited to the Shockwave. It muddies the waters for all non-NFA guns over 26 inches in length.
-
bignflnut
- Volunteer
- Posts: 8145
- Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:14 pm
- Location: Under Naybob Tinfoil Bridge
- Contact:
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
Machine guns won't be illegal.DontTreadOnMe wrote:You're being paranoid. The State of Ohio cannot make it illegal to possess long guns. No one is going to be prosecuted for their ARs or other currently-legal guns over this wording.Liberty wrote:Are you willing to bet your life on the hope that the politicians will fix this?DontTreadOnMe wrote:I'm usually pretty skeptical but I agree this will get a quick fix exactly because the problem isn't limited to the Shockwave. It muddies the waters for all non-NFA guns over 26 inches in length.
We'll always be able to buy dynamite the hardware store.
We'll always be able to mail order rifles via Sears for Christmas.
People won't be able to call 911 and send cops to your door.
#LandoftheFree!
“It’s not that we don’t have enough scoundrels to curse; it’s that we don’t have enough good men to curse them.”–G.K. Chesterton-Illustrated London News, 3-14-1908
Republicans.Hate.You. See2020.
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams to Mass Militia 10-11-1798
Republicans.Hate.You. See2020.
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams to Mass Militia 10-11-1798
-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
And Trump will never ban bump stocks.
-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
And DeWine will sign a fix so that AR-15's are not illegal under the new law.
-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
And we live in fantasy land!
-
DontTreadOnMe
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 1750
- Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 11:11 am
- Location: SW Ohio
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
And you like to hear yourself talk obviously 
Don't strawman me. Heller is a thing now and even though it isn't as strong as we'd like, banning all long guns is well outside its reach and certainly outside the political reality of Ohio.
Don't strawman me. Heller is a thing now and even though it isn't as strong as we'd like, banning all long guns is well outside its reach and certainly outside the political reality of Ohio.-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
Am Sub HB 228 is not a strawman. Liberal prosecutors will prosecute you. Liberal Judges will put you in prison, and the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to rule on cases to include AR-15's as protected by the Constitution. Will the Supreme Court hear your case in about 10 years? Maybe.
-
rickt
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 3164
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:35 am
- Location: Cuyahoga County
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
I sent an email to my state rep and within two hours he called me. He says they are working to get the House session and the Senate session "synchronized" so the veto overrides happen in the correct order. He also said legislators are delaying and shortening their vacations to be there for the vote.
I also brought up the LSC screwup and he asked me to write up an explanation so he can show it to the leadership.
I also brought up the LSC screwup and he asked me to write up an explanation so he can show it to the leadership.
-
schmieg
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 5803
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:11 pm
- Location: Madeira, Ohio
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
It's amazing that they are unaware of it by now.rickt wrote:I sent an email to my state rep and within two hours he called me. He says they are working to get the House session and the Senate session "synchronized" so the veto overrides happen in the correct order. He also said legislators are delaying and shortening their vacations to be there for the vote.
I also brought up the LSC screwup and he asked me to write up an explanation so he can show it to the leadership.
-- Mike
"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand
"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand
-
qmti
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 683
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:18 pm
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
Well, hopefully his statement to you is correct. I guess we'll see after the 27th. I contacted my house/senate legislator and both are committed to a override. I think it's the "on-the-fence" senate legislators that will make or break the override.rickt wrote:I sent an email to my state rep and within two hours he called me. He says they are working to get the House session and the Senate session "synchronized" so the veto overrides happen in the correct order. He also said legislators are delaying and shortening their vacations to be there for the vote.
I also brought up the LSC screwup and he asked me to write up an explanation so he can show it to the leadership.
-
Liberty
- Posts: 92
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:38 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
So, which is it; are they not aware of the problem or have we been lied to by members of the other group?rickt wrote:I sent an email to my state rep and within two hours he called me. He says they are working to get the House session and the Senate session "synchronized" so the veto overrides happen in the correct order. He also said legislators are delaying and shortening their vacations to be there for the vote.
I also brought up the LSC screwup and he asked me to write up an explanation so he can show it to the leadership.
-
rickt
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 3164
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:35 am
- Location: Cuyahoga County
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
Perhaps that information has not been transmitted to every member of the House and Senate.Liberty wrote:So, which is it; are they not aware of the problem or have we been lied to by members of the other group?
-
Chuck
- OFCC Director
- Posts: 4765
- Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:06 am
- Location: Licking County
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
I think they're figuring it out as they go, same as we are
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
-
xpd54
- Posts: 656
- Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:43 am
- Location: Dayton Area
Re: HB 228: Stand your ground + other changes
I sent my rep a message. Including the info about the screw up.
".....in the end we must still slosh our way through the factbound morass of reasonableness."
- Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia in Scott v. Harris
The views expressed in this post are my own. They have not been reviewed or approved by my employer.
My Blog
- Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia in Scott v. Harris
The views expressed in this post are my own. They have not been reviewed or approved by my employer.
My Blog