Credit service Intuit shuts down payments on gun purchases

[Gramps]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/cr ... -purchases

How do you find who processes my credit card payment?

[sodbuster95]

How do you find who processes my credit card payment?

The credit card processor is determined by the merchant, not the customer. I'm not sure there's any way to find out who's processing a particular transaction without asking the vendor (the person you're paying).

[Bruenor]

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Well you can pretty much guarantee if they are a store that deals in firearms at all, they won't be using Intuits processing much longer.

Wish someone could sue intuit for lost revenue since they refunded all sales to the customers instead of giving the approved transactions to the sellers.
I think gunsite got hit the hardest loss wise, but they would spend far more trying to get Intuit to hand over the funds as intuit says "it's not us, it's our banks policy"

So the question then is, What reasonably priced software packages are out there for small business accounting that can also support Point of Sale and aren't tied to a specific card processor ? Sage50/Peachtree ??

[deanimator]

My email to their PR people:

Dear Ms. Carlini:

I have been a user of Turbo Tax for several years now, and had recommended it to others.

Due to Intuit's recent unconscionable behavior towards Gunsite, I will no longer either use or recommend it or your other products.

Your actions in reversing card payments owed to Gunsite for goods and services already delivered were not just unethical, they were potentially criminal. If ANY customer failed to pay for goods or services received because of your actions, that would constitute facilitation of theft by fraud. To be honest no reasonably intelligent adult could ever believe that that was not by design.

Based on your actions in this manner, I'm horrified to realize that I entrusted you and your products with my personal financial and even worse, my personal identification information such as my SSAN. Any business which would do what Intuit did simply can't be trusted with such sensitive information, and anyone would simply be a fool to do so. I am not a fool.

Therefore, I will be uninstalling your product(s) and seeking alternatives, as well as strongly discouraging my business contacts and friends from doing business with you.

You have brought shame upon yourselves and your brand. I certainly hope that the financial and legal consequences give you pause as they certainly should.

[schmieg]

Quicken is no longer an Intuit product. I don't know if there is still any ties between the two companies though.

[Mr. Glock]

Quicken is no longer an Intuit product. I don't know if there is still any ties between the two companies though.

No. Quicken is owned by an private equity company now.

[AlanM]

On this subject, this question was just asked on Quora.com

Should gun owners be worried about Citigroup and other big banks taking a political stand on gun rights in the U.S.?

Currently there are 9 answers.
If you go there look for the answer by Jackson Howder, Owner Operator.

I don’t like it, but I thought this whole “businesses denying customers service for lifestyle choices” thing had been settled already? I must’ve misunderstood.

One more reason to keep your business local, as local banks are usually more flexible. The way I see it, there is a lot of competition in their business, and they’ll get punished for political statements being forced on customers. If company A says no more guns on our credit card, company B will offer special financing at Cabela’s, company C will offer cash back for gun purchases, and company D will offer special NRA rates. There’s always someone willing to take advantage of a business turning away it’s own customers.

As a gun shop owner, I can tell you something interesting, there are companies that have found its very rewarding to support gun owners. I get very competitive rates with my credit card processors because I am a gun shop, and they know gun owners will reward people that support them.

There's more to his answer, but you get the idea.

The other eight answers are spread across the spectrum of negative, to apathetic, to positive.

[SMMAssociates]

Speaking of Quicken....

I had to buy a new copy for Windows10 when the #1 PC here croaked, and the spare was Win10 anyway....

Quicken seems to randomly drop transactions (from the Check Register), alter their contents, and otherwise act nuts.

I've been using Quicken since about 1978 (DOS version), and switched to Windows a few years later. (The DOS version was a LOT easier to use, but the Windows version printed things better.) Added QuickBooks quite a while later.

IAC, now I have two reasons to find something else....

Any suggestions guys?

TIA

[Javelin Man]

First graduate from DOS to Windows 95 or even better, 98. Notice we skipped 2.1 and 3.1.

After that I'm at a loss. My flip phone still has a rotary dial.

[Bruenor]

IAC, now I have two reasons to find something else....

Any suggestions guys?

TIA

GnuCash - Open Source accounting. it's free, costs you nothing to try, and can import some information from Quickbooks. Go download it now.

Sage50/Peachtree - seems to be the only Direct commercial competitor to Quickbooks but it's cloud based, so you pay every month to use it. reviews say to only purchase directly from Sage..

Aside from those I see a bunch of other products out there, most of which I've never heard of, or stuff that's more suitable for larger businesses. A Lot of pay monthly cloud based solutions.. I personally hate cloud based solutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... g_software

let us know what you find.

[schmieg]

Speaking of Quicken....

I had to buy a new copy for Windows10 when the #1 PC here croaked, and the spare was Win10 anyway....

Quicken seems to randomly drop transactions (from the Check Register), alter their contents, and otherwise act nuts.

I've been using Quicken since about 1978 (DOS version), and switched to Windows a few years later. (The DOS version was a LOT easier to use, but the Windows version printed things better.) Added QuickBooks quite a while later.

IAC, now I have two reasons to find something else....

Any suggestions guys?

TIA

Quicken seems to work fine here on Win10. In fact, it's even better since Quicken left Intuit. There were a couple of weeks where things were a bit weird then, but it all straightened out.

And note: as stated above, Quicken is not part of Intuit any more.