CPZ Business Owner Letter
Moderators: Chuck, Mustang380gal, Coordinators, Moderators
- DGMilty
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:12 am
- Location: Miami County, OH,Grid Sq EM70tx
CPZ Business Owner Letter
The OFCC letter to send to CPZ locations can be found here
Download Letter
Download Letter
-
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:41 am
- Location: Southern Ohio
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Link does not work
-
- Posts: 2502
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:57 am
- Location: Mercer County
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Is this what you're looking for?
Last edited by tjeffries on Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive?"-- Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- DGMilty
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:12 am
- Location: Miami County, OH,Grid Sq EM70tx
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
that's the "old" address---try here Business Owner letter
visit my good friends at SWCDeals.com
-
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:41 am
- Location: Southern Ohio
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Yes, thank you!
-
- Posts: 2502
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:57 am
- Location: Mercer County
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Thank you kind sir, I also edited the other post to reflect the change.DGMilty wrote:that's the "old" address---try here Business Owner letter
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive?"-- Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- DGMilty
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:12 am
- Location: Miami County, OH,Grid Sq EM70tx
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
"Sir" ??? You must not be addressing me, then!!!
You're more than welcome.
You're more than welcome.
visit my good friends at SWCDeals.com
-
- Posts: 2502
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:57 am
- Location: Mercer County
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
After working 27 years in retail, I sometimes use that word pretty looselyDGMilty wrote:"Sir" ??? You must not be addressing me, then!!!
You're more than welcome.
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive?"-- Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tripwire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- dcludwig
- Posts: 1859
- Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:51 pm
- Location: Dayton, Ohio
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
This is a GREAT letter! I am going to print out a LOT of copies and make sure they make their way into the hands of business owners, especially those who felt pressured into posting the NO GUNS signs. We can't change the minds of all of them, but there are so many who are just plain ignorant of the facts and can certainly be swayed into removing the signs.
U.S. Army 1968 - 1971
5th SFGA, 1st SF
Republic of Vietnam, March 1969 to May 1971
ALWAYS be aware of the letter of the law, because THEY may not be! --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWLxPC6YKlA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
5th SFGA, 1st SF
Republic of Vietnam, March 1969 to May 1971
ALWAYS be aware of the letter of the law, because THEY may not be! --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWLxPC6YKlA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
- Posts: 111
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:45 am
- Location: Northeast Ohio
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Thanks for this letter, I've printed it out and will be making LOTS of copies to hand out or mail to these ignorant business owners who will not get a penny from me as long as their doors are posted.
- jamie9mm
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:54 pm
- Location: galloway. oh
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
At the bottom of the letter are we supposed to sign are name and contact info?
When Barrack Obama is directly related to the murder of a cop, it's Executive Privilege.
Vote 2012!
Vote 2012!
- DGMilty
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:12 am
- Location: Miami County, OH,Grid Sq EM70tx
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Yes,
Go ahead and sign it with your name. If there's any correspondence from the business owner back to us (OFCC) our address is on there.
Go ahead and sign it with your name. If there's any correspondence from the business owner back to us (OFCC) our address is on there.
visit my good friends at SWCDeals.com
-
- Posts: 180
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:34 am
- Location: Parma, Ohio
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
This letter is good, but I was wondering if we could get the website or the name of the "studies" that are quoted. There is a study that says criminals are more likely to pick a place with a posted sign over a place without the sign, and another study showing 98% of incidents were prevented without firing a shot...etc.
If we could actually quote these studies in the letter (with a web link, or a journal notation) this would further qualify the letter.
I personally believe the studies exist, but whenever someone tells me, "Oh yeah...well studies show that gun deaths are blah blah blah" I always ask for the "particular" study they are quoting. They are usually making stuff up.
So we should quote a real study to further enhance our message.
I will try to look some up as well and post them here. (I usually try to help out with a solution to my question as well!)
Thanks,
Dave
If we could actually quote these studies in the letter (with a web link, or a journal notation) this would further qualify the letter.
I personally believe the studies exist, but whenever someone tells me, "Oh yeah...well studies show that gun deaths are blah blah blah" I always ask for the "particular" study they are quoting. They are usually making stuff up.
So we should quote a real study to further enhance our message.
I will try to look some up as well and post them here. (I usually try to help out with a solution to my question as well!)
Thanks,
Dave
- DGMilty
- OFCC Coordinator
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:12 am
- Location: Miami County, OH,Grid Sq EM70tx
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
The old DNPWA cited several "polls" showing that information. All I can recall now is that one was a Zogby poll. If you do find anything definite, please pass it along to me so I can incorporate it in the letter.
visit my good friends at SWCDeals.com
- jazzcat
- Posts: 151
- Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 10:36 am
Re: CPZ Business Owner Letter
Depending on with whom you are speaking, a Zogby poll isn't worth dookie. I'll spit on your Zogby and raise you two spent .17HMR casings. We need data on actual risks, not what the general population thinks.DGMilty wrote: If you do find anything definite, please pass it along to me so I can incorporate it in the letter.
A brief Google search led me to these academic studies, and each one has references to further academic studies. They do not directly apply to the case of having an establishment posted and the risks mitigated as such, but the Lott / Landes study comes darn close. Each study outlines how crime rates go UP when guns are restricted in any manner. But we all knew that, didn't we?
Title: Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm? ... id=161637# (Use the first SSRN link to download the paper)
Title: Guns, Truth, Medicine, and the Constitution
http://www.jpands.org/vol13no2/deakins.pdf
Title: Do Restrictive Firearm Laws Improve Public Safety?
http://www.garymauser.net/pdf/MauserPaper-200611.pdf
These papers were written by physicians, economists, and social scientists - hardly what anyone could call a 'gun nut'.