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Appleseed After Action Report (Minerva)

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Appleseed After Action Report (Minerva)

Post by Morne »

So, my sunburned self just got back from another great weekend of Appleseed rifle shooting. Some thoughts:

1-My AR-15 and I got well-acquainted.
2-Mr. Glock is DA MAN with his national match M-1A.
3-McM gets the best improved award. His sitting position is SOLID.
4-TeknoRat is a (very, very sunburned) Aussie.
5-The choice of Outback Steakhouse for dinner was highly culturally offensive. :oops:
6-There is a reason he's not called "Little Shafe".
7-66DueceCoupe was smart to bring lawn chairs.
8-We had eight OFCC'ers there. Good turn out!
9-Buffalo burgers are tasty!
10-Shooting in a sand pit sucks. The boys & girls overseas have my respect for being able to operate in such an environment.
11-Some shade at or behind the firing line would have been GREAT!
12-Suntan lotion makes glasses slide down your nose.
13-You do not shoot as accurately when your glasses have slid down so far that you are looking over them to see the front sight.
14-It is very easy to lose a pair of earplugs when you are about to vomit from heat exhaustion.
15-Mr. Glock will loan you a spare pair of earmuffs after #14 above.
16-.308 brass going up the sleeve of your shooting jacket on your support arm will change your natural point of aim (NPOA). :shock:
17-There are never enough staple guns and spare staples for posting targets.
18-Duelling truck speakers during clean-up is FUN. Country (Mr. Glock) versus Metal (Morne).
19-Ball & Dummy is the best drill EVER. Buy some snap caps and have your wife/buddy load a mag with a mix of live and snap caps. Your flinch WILL be revealed.
20-So many tools were learned here. I have months of work ahead of me to implement all of this. Even after going to Wabash last year I learned new stuff.
21-There is the possibility of doing this again in October.
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Post by Teknorat »

About to vomit? I heard at least two good heaves :P

This was without a doubt the most educational experience I have had in many many years. I never though I would learn so much or be able to shoot as well as I did (which was still poorly.)

For anyone who owns a rifle or would like to own one I cannot recommend this highly enough. You WILL learn and you WILL come away a better shooter and maybe even a prouder American.

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Re: Appleseed After Action Report (Minerva)

Post by 66 deuce coupe »

Morne wrote:So, my sunburned self just got back from another great weekend of Appleseed rifle shooting. Some thoughts:

1-My AR-15 and I got well-acquainted.
2-Mr. Glock is DA MAN with his national match M-1A.
3-McM gets the best improved award. His sitting position is SOLID.
4-TeknoRat is a (very, very sunburned) Aussie.
5-The choice of Outback Steakhouse for dinner was highly culturally offensive. :oops:
6-There is a reason he's not called "Little Shafe".
7-66DueceCoupe was smart to bring lawn chairs.
8-We had eight OFCC'ers there. Good turn out!
9-Buffalo burgers are tasty!
10-Shooting in a sand pit sucks. The boys & girls overseas have my respect for being able to operate in such an environment.
11-Some shade at or behind the firing line would have been GREAT!
12-Suntan lotion makes glasses slide down your nose.
13-You do not shoot as accurately when your glasses have slid down so far that you are looking over them to see the front sight.
14-It is very easy to lose a pair of earplugs when you are about to vomit from heat exhaustion.
15-Mr. Glock will loan you a spare pair of earmuffs after #14 above.
16-.308 brass going up the sleeve of your shooting jacket on your support arm will change your natural point of aim (NPOA). :shock:
17-There are never enough staple guns and spare staples for posting targets.
18-Duelling truck speakers during clean-up is FUN. Country (Mr. Glock) versus Metal (Morne).
19-Ball & Dummy is the best drill EVER. Buy some snap caps and have your wife/buddy load a mag with a mix of live and snap caps. Your flinch WILL be revealed.
20-So many tools were learned here. I have months of work ahead of me to implement all of this. Even after going to Wabash last year I learned new stuff.
21-There is the possibility of doing this again in October.
Well I just woke up from my well deserved nap, I was one pooped puppy.
All in all this was a great weekend.
The weather could have been a little more forgiving, but better than rain, I think anyway.
It was great to meet so many guys from OFCC, and also the guys who were not famalier with OFCC.
Enough for now as I am going to bed.

One question though Morne :?:
When did you become famalier with your AR :?: was it after midnight or befor 6 am :lol:
Just kidding, honest, really I am :P
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Post by Jake »

Any targets to post?
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Post by BIG SHAFE »

I enjoyed Saturday, although I was exhausted and dehydrated.

Didn't make it today due to my back being extremely out of whack this morning (I have a herniated disc). I will try to get into better shape and make the next one thats close.

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Post by McM »

TeknoRat improved far more than me. By the end of day two he had multiple groups on the 400 yard three shot targets.

I learned much, but I am still rather disappointed in my lack of skill. If it is held again in October (I already asked the wife if I could go again and she agreed.), I'm gonna practice like a fiend and build up a Liberty Trainer.

Word to the truth, the AK-47 is not a precision/Appleseed rifle. If you are a poor shot, as I am, it greatly magnifies those weaknesses.

The instructors were really good, and the OFCC crowd were all great folks. I have to give a MEGA thank-you and respect to Morne. His loan/gift of 160 rounds of .223 so I could use an instructor's rifle on day two was awesome beyond words. A big thanks, and ammo karma will be returned at the next shooting event we both attend.

I have to give 'mad props' to everybody at the shoot, and the spirit of co-operation and sharing. Morne's ammo. loan, my stapler got passed around like a bad check, when my glasses broke a complete stranger loaned me his sunglasses so I could continue to shoot, and Mr. Glock's loan of a butt pad/extender to help me get another 1.5 inches to my AK exemplified the spirit of like minded folks. Thank you all!

I strongly encourage everybody to attend an Appleseed shoot if in any way possible.

p.s. Mr. Glock was scary good with that .308 :shock: :shock:
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Post by Jake »

Glad to hear what a good experience this was.

I'm going to have to make the next one in Minerva. It's only 30ish minutes out for me.

Sounds like a tip "o" the hat goes to Mr. G. for his mad skills.

Another tip "o" the hat to all the OFCC's who bonded like a Band of Brothers.


Ok...that was cheesy! :lol:
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Post by McM »

Actually, we mostly had no idea who each other were. I recognized Morne as we'd met previously @ the Youngstown E&G. The line went: Mr. Glock, Morne, Me, TeknoRat, skip a few non-OFCC shooters...Big Shafe, Muxtech, Mean Streaker, and 66 Deuce Coupe were towards the center and right of the line. I only met a few of them when other OFCCers were talking to them. They are all great guys though.
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Post by Birdman »

Man, I wish I could have gone. I now have a spanking new RRA AR-15, which is now sighted in thanks to Mr. Glock's free Appleseed targets. I will reveal to all that my points add up to "Marksman", (barely). Standing is absolutely much harder than I thought.
I need a correct sling for my AR. Can you guys recommend one?
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Post by BIG SHAFE »

August Shoot info and purchasing info.
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Post by jmwildenthal »

Birdman wrote:Man, I wish I could have gone. I now have a spanking new RRA AR-15, which is now sighted in thanks to Mr. Glock's free Appleseed targets. I will reveal to all that my points add up to "Marksman", (barely). Standing is absolutely much harder than I thought.
I need a correct sling for my AR. Can you guys recommend one?
Please keep me advised of an October Appleseed.
Do you want a single point sling or a two point sling? If two point, are you looking for top/side attachment or bottom attachment? Bottom is associated with muzzle up carry. Top/side is associated with muzzle down carry.

The trainers I follow recommend either a single point sling or a two point top/side attachment sling.

For a two point top attachment, I've heard nice comments about the Vickers sling.

For a single point sling I've heard the Tango Down PR-4 sling mount with a Wilderness Tactical/Giles sling recommended.
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Post by Buckshot »

jmwildenthal wrote:
Birdman wrote:Man, I wish I could have gone. I now have a spanking new RRA AR-15, which is now sighted in thanks to Mr. Glock's free Appleseed targets. I will reveal to all that my points add up to "Marksman", (barely). Standing is absolutely much harder than I thought.
I need a correct sling for my AR. Can you guys recommend one?
Please keep me advised of an October Appleseed.
Do you want a single point sling or a two point sling? If two point, are you looking for top/side attachment or bottom attachment? Bottom is associated with muzzle up carry. Top/side is associated with muzzle down carry.

The trainers I follow recommend either a single point sling or a two point top/side attachment sling.

For a two point top attachment, I've heard nice comments about the Vickers sling.

For a single point sling I've heard the Tango Down PR-4 sling mount with a Wilderness Tactical/Giles sling recommended.
jmwildenthal,

If he is going to be shooting the Appleseed he needs either a US M1 sling in either cotton or nylon web or a good US M1907 type sling in leather or the synthetic replacement like Turner's has.

Tactical (or tacticool) slings WILL NOT CUT IT THERE!

He needs the standard USGI Loop Sling setup on the bottom swivels (actually just the front swivel).

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Post by muxtech »

It was awesome! I have to admit I was humbled. The skills they teach are quite a challenge. All I have to do is practice the lesson plan and go back in October. Meeting everyone was a real pleasure. The heat was rough but I wanted to try this so much, what are you going to do? I'm happy it didn't rain. It got less hot at night so the camp was good. Saturday, by the end I was out of gas. My mental focus went out the window. It would have been tough in perfect weather. Five minutes shooting prone takes some getting used to. There's parts of my body I can't feel.

And I wouldn't have missed it for the world. You should go!

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Post by ArcherAce »

I'm glad you all had a good time.

Anyone going to the Gibsonburg shoot?
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Post by heathen »

I'd like to make the one in Gibsonburg. Looks like a great way to improve my shooting skills.
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