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Rep. James Aslanides, proposed bill........

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My issue with that "No non-citizens" thing is simple.

1. Anyone applying for a CHL is proven to be more law-abiding than non CHL people. That is the facts. Therefore, making the claim that it MAY keep guns out of the wrong hands is FALSE.

2. This little insert is just plain disturbing, because my only problems with immigrants are that some do it unlawfully, while others come to our country and try to ruin it by assimilating their beliefs onto those of us who are happy with our own beliefs, and I'd really appreciate it if they learned the language, too.

3. I do not now, nor have I ever, believed that a lawful resident with the full intention of obtaining citizenship should be barred from any of the freedoms of the rest of us. Those "just visiting", unless they can take their firearms with them (more unlikely all the time), on the other hand, complicate this issue.

4. Should that insert be accepted, and not rightfully removed in committee, this country has Ex Post Facto laws right in the US Constitution that will make it unlawful to revoke a CHL from those who now fall under these new stupid guidelines. If it happens that way, I would take it all the way to the Supreme Court of the US.
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Glock and dagger wrote:
3. I do not now, nor have I ever, believed that a lawful resident with the full intention of obtaining citizenship should be barred from any of the freedoms of the rest of us. Those "just visiting", unless they can take their firearms with them (more unlikely all the time), on the other hand, complicate this issue.
Never did I suggest thay they be "barred" either. I simply pointed out that our rights as Americans are a birthright. We extend those rights to aliens with the assumption they will be productive citizens.

I still maintain that full citizenship is an obligation that any resident alien should pursue, within the limits of his/her means and ability....and for Pete's sake at least have the common courtesy to learn the freegin' language.

When I was in the Navy I participated in the rescue mission back in the seventies when that commie slime feedell castrate sent a bunch of folks over in boats. I forget now what it was called. I got a ribbon for it....a humanitarian ribbon if I recall right.

Heck, they weren't derelicts and criminals...though I'm sure a few snuck in. Most were just poor, desperate families. I still look back with pride how we disembarked in LST's to pick those people up. They were in sorry shape, let me tell ya. I don't think many of them would have made it all the way to florida.

I also recall how our CO lined 'em up in the well deck and made them swear an oath of citizenship.

My point is this. I don't have a hardon for immigrants. If they can be decent, productive members of our great country I say they are welcome.

BTW if any of you care to research this... the ship I was on was the USS Shreveport...LPD 12 out of Norfolk.
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So....Geezah.

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Actually, that wasn't directed at you, Petro. If you go back and read, some people do feel this way.
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Glock and dagger wrote:Actually, that wasn't directed at you, Petro. If you go back and read, some people do feel this way.
Yeah, that's my biggest problem...I don't read.
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