But - my glove box doesn't have a lock...

deserteagle71 · Post by **deserteagle71** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:55 pm

If you own a jeep CJ, YJ, or TJ you may want to check out one of these.

http://www.tuffyproducts.com/glovebox/glovebox.html

Redfestiva · Post by **Redfestiva** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:12 pm

My subcompact hatchback car has no trunk or locking glovebox. I just got one of these for Christmas. Thanks Santa.

http://aacfi.com/products/secureit.shtml

Sylord · Post by **Sylord** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:28 pm

Dodge Ram Trucks say in the Manual that a lock is available as an option, but even the dealers and parts people cannot find it.

I have added a lock like these to my medicine cabnet, and will have to add one to my glove box, now if I was only able to put the lock on the center console, as it would be much easier to get to if needed.

Bersa45 · Post by **Bersa45** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:17 am

You aint going to need one here pretty soon

Cruiser · Post by **Cruiser** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:03 am

Bersa45 wrote:You aint going to need one here pretty soon

The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.

You are going to get some arrested with your line.
Because if the gun is "loaded" and in your "glove compartment" that "glove compartment" needs to be "locked" under the HB347.

Bersa45 · Post by **Bersa45** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:41 am

Cruiser wrote:
Bersa45 wrote:You aint going to need one here pretty soon

The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.
You are going to get some arrested with your line.
Because if the gun is "loaded" and in your "glove compartment" that "glove compartment" needs to be "locked" under the HB347.

does it have a latch or closing mechanism and is in plain sight??? looks like one of the ways to me. I guess we read this differently. I read this as being more user friendly to chl, but that is why we discuss different points of view and thats what makes this so much fun

Cruiser · Post by **Cruiser** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:41 pm

From New Handbook:

The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.

Dang

the more I look at this it appears that the above entire phrase should apply to when we are out of the vehicle. But that ain't what it says

With that thought everything make sense

But then again, this is Ohio and we can't allow common sense in interpiting the Law or what it says.

Post by **TunnelRat** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:29 pm

Cruiser wrote:From New Handbook:
The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.
Dang the more I look at this it appears that the above entire phrase should apply to when we are out of the vehicle. But that ain't what it says With that thought everything make sense But then again, this is Ohio and we can't allow common sense in interpiting the Law or what it says.

Nope, the new Handbook was wrong on this point and has been corrected in later printings.

If the case isn't locked, it needs to be in plain sight.
If the case is locked, it can be stashed out of sight -- even with a loaded gun it.

Cruiser · Post by **Cruiser** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:01 pm

TunnelRat wrote:
Cruiser wrote:From New Handbook:
The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.
Dang the more I look at this it appears that the above entire phrase should apply to when we are out of the vehicle. But that ain't what it says With that thought everything make sense But then again, this is Ohio and we can't allow common sense in interpiting the Law or what it says.
Nope, the new Handbook was wrong on this point and has been corrected in later printings.

If the case isn't locked, it needs to be in plain sight.
If the case is locked, it can be stashed out of sight -- even with a loaded gun it.

Just checked and it still reads like my post.

The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed,
locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked.

Kuby · Post by **Kuby** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:55 pm

I'm not sure how to interpret this new law change.

Per the new CCW rules training manual:
"The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover, or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun,
or
The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, locked glove compartment or in a case that is locked."

If I'm trasnporting my pistol in a plastic gun case "box", the lid/latches must be closed - OK got it. But the second sentence bothers me - if my plactic "case" box has paddle lock holes must I lock the "box" too?
[ I would say no unless the lock is physically mounted as per of the case box. ]

Another loss of logic that is now over kill is the requirement that glove compartment must be "locked" - how is this different than a closed box or hand bag?

Cruiser · Post by **Cruiser** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:41 pm

Kuby wrote:I'm not sure how to interpret this new law change.

Per the new CCW rules training manual:
"The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover, or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun,

It is my belief that the above quote is meant to cover every possible description of a womens carry method. As usuall Ohio has let a lot to interpitation. And many readers are trying to read as much into it as their imagination can.

Dseckt · Post by **Dseckt** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:24 pm

I read through this stuff and get more confused than ever...
I have an 06 Ford F350 Pickup
It has a hugh compartment in the center of the front seat
It has a closing mechanism .. No key lock
It is in plain sight...

Can I keep my loaded hand gun in it...???

jabeatty · Post by **jabeatty** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:33 pm

Dseckt wrote:I read through this stuff and get more confused than ever...
I have an 06 Ford F350 Pickup
It has a hugh compartment in the center of the front seat
It has a closing mechanism .. No key lock
It is in plain sight...

Can I keep my loaded hand gun in it...???

Is it a glove compartment?

If not, use it. My Windstar's center console comes close to matching your description; it's where my Glock rides when I'm headed to a CPZ or after a particularly satisfying visit to the buffet.

Dseckt · Post by **Dseckt** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:43 pm

jabeatty wrote:
Dseckt wrote:I read through this stuff and get more confused than ever...
I have an 06 Ford F350 Pickup
It has a hugh compartment in the center of the front seat
It has a closing mechanism .. No key lock
It is in plain sight...

Can I keep my loaded hand gun in it...???
Is it a glove compartment?

If not, use it. My Windstar's center console comes close to matching your description; it's where my Glock rides when I'm headed to a CPZ or after a particularly satisfying visit to the buffet.

It also has a traditional glovebox in the normal location.. Sp I'd say it's a storage area...

OntWarrior · Post by **OntWarrior** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:38 pm

Hi all, just recieved my CHL today. So if I understand this right, I am going on vacation and traveling to a state we have Reciprocity with. Is it legal for me to store my loaded handgun in a locked box under the seat? while I travel?

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