SQUISH goes the DC GOP on Due Process

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SQUISH goes the DC GOP on Due Process

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Following the NRA and POTUS' lead...
‘Red Flag’ Gun Control Bills Pick Up Momentum With G.O.P. in Congress
Congressional Republicans, under intense pressure to respond to this weekend’s massacres, are coalescing around legislation to help law enforcement take guns from those who pose an imminent danger — a measure that, if signed into law, would be the most significant gun control legislation enacted in 20 years.

Such “red flag” laws might not be as momentous — or controversial — as the now-expired assault weapons ban or the instant background check system, both of which were enacted in 1994 as part of President Bill Clinton’s sprawling crime bill. The House, under Democratic control, passed far more ambitious bills in February that would require background checks for all gun purchasers, including those on the internet or at gun shows, and extend waiting limits for would-be gun buyers flagged by the instant check system.

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“They were absolutely right,” Mr. DeWine said Tuesday morning at a news conference. “We must do something, and that is exactly what we are going to do.”

Representative Michael R. Turner, a Republican whose district includes Dayton, went further.

“I will support legislation that prevents the sale of military-style weapons to civilians, a magazine limit and red flag legislation,” he said in a statement Tuesday. “The carnage these military-style weapons are able to produce when available to the wrong people is intolerable.”

But in the Senate, where a background checks bill failed in 2013 after 26 children and staff members were gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., red flag laws may be the only gun-related measure that could squeeze through. President Trump endorsed the idea on Monday in a speech from the White House, giving skittish Republicans cover to embrace it.
They have to attack the 5th and 14th Amendments, calling a judge "due process" and we can see how easy divorce/custody/family destroying laws have found their new target in the 2nd Amendment.

But, hey, single issue voting, amIright?
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Don't worry, everyone, Rush says the GOP is just doing the 17D time space continuum chess to steal the anti's thunder! (*cough* *HACK* ROFL)
Limbaugh then proclaimed that red flag laws are a “pipeline to gun control.”

He views this scheme as a way for the Left to “incrementally” get what they want, which is law-abiding gun owners’ firearms.

Who could oppose that, see? “Who could oppose the mentally ill not getting guns? “If it takes a red flag law to do it, Limbaugh, then we gotta support it — and, if you don’t agree with this, it just means you’re too big of a… You’re just.. You’re just… You’re just not flexible enough, Limbaugh!” That’s what people will say. Now, it’s a Democrat idea, which is its first disqualifier to me. It means it sucks from the get-go. But I’m going to be flexible here. I think it’s their way of incrementally getting what they want, which is your gun or guns.

For Limbaugh, kowtowing to anti-gun pressure will not satisfy the relentless Left:

But I know what they’re trying to do in the White House. They’re trying to remove the issue. They’re trying to take the issue away from the Democrats by agreeing to what they’re proposing. Not necessarily making it happen, just agree to it in words. You take the issue away. That’s the strategery. But the Democrats are not gonna compromise with Trump on anything! Especially now, a year and a half or less prior to the election.

The radio host sees a much bigger play in these debates. When commenting on the more radical factions of the Left, he observed that “they want your guns. They want everybody’s guns. They’re just like the communists: They want your guns. They want full confiscation, and there is no majority for that in this country.”
There's the kiss of death. Justification and it's all good in the GOP.
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I have never heard anyone mention a procedure to make sure ERPO is not going to be abused by ex spouses like calling CPS is !
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WeinerDog wrote:I have never heard anyone mention a procedure to make sure ERPO is not going to be abused by ex spouses like calling CPS is !
Bingo

It could (and will be eventually) extended from family to co-workers to further and further. Red flag laws aren’t going to stop most of these mass shootings, but they will be abused frequently.

Soon, “Ah comrade, for the good of the state, your high school girlfriend from 30 years ago has informed on you. We must search your home for weapons of mass destruction” (which will be defined down to most guns).

Then, “Comrade, you are writing offensive things on social media, You can’t use social media until you’ve taken a class to re-educate you on how to communicate non-offensively.”

And then “Comrade, we have many undocumented immigrants who need shelter, the state needs to use your extra bedroom to help shelter the unfortunate “

And so on through the Bill of Rights.
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WeinerDog wrote:I have never heard anyone mention a procedure to make sure ERPO is not going to be abused by ex spouses like calling CPS is !
Hell, this already happens. ERPO will just make it easier.
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Democrats are ramping up one of their most concentrated pushes for gun control yet, and from the looks of it, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell might be unwilling to stand in their way.

The Kentucky Republican refused to rule out a possibility of the Senate exploring an “assault weapons” ban or red flag gun confiscation laws.

McConnell also said there was “a lot of support” for background check measures advanced by Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey. Nearly all gun sales from retailers to customers already involve a NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) background check. Toomey’s legislation would extend the check to sales between private individuals, involving weapons which have very rarely if not never used in criminal acts or mass shootings.

The Senate Majority Leader said that laws regulating so-called assault weapons were “one of the front and center issues,” speaking to WHAS 840 in Louisville. “But what we can’t do is fail to pass something. What I want to see here is an outcome, not a bunch of partisan back and forths, shots across the bow.”
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GOP Sen. Johnny Isakson (Ga.) announced Wednesday that he will step down from the Senate at the end of the year, citing health issues.

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Isakson, 74, was reelected to the Senate in 2016, meaning his seat would have next been up for grabs in 2022.
Window for Isakson to support agenda items that betray his constituents...just a radar item...Carry On.
“It’s not that we don’t have enough scoundrels to curse; it’s that we don’t have enough good men to curse them.”–G.K. Chesterton-Illustrated London News, 3-14-1908

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"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams to Mass Militia 10-11-1798
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