HR 1585 moves to the Senate

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HR 1585 moves to the Senate

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Not a bill we want to see go any further...
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Re: HR 1585 moves to the Senate

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When the Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed, six categories of people who were not allowed to purchase firearms from federal dealers were created. The list included categories which did not exist in most states. The categories were these:

1. Not a legal resident of the State where the federal dealership is located

2. People under the age of 21 for handguns, and 18 for rifles and shotguns.

3. Convicted felons or those under indictment for a felony (a crime punishable by more than a year of imprisonment)

4. Fugitives from justice (fled from any State to avoid prosecution for a crime or to avoid giving testimony in any criminal proceeding)

5. Those adjudicated to be mentally defective or who has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution.

6. Unlawful user/addicted to a controlled substance

The last four categories were prohibited from possessing firearms.

In 1987, Congress added four additional categories:

1. Illegal aliens

2. Persons Dishonorably discharged from the military

3. Persons who have renounced U.S. Citizenship

4. People who are subject to a restraining order for domestic violence, harassment, or stalking (required a court hearing finding the person restrained was a threat)

In 1996, Congress added another category, people convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

In 2019, the Democrats in the House are seeking to expand the latest class, domestic violence, by changing it from intimate partner to include "dating partner" or "former dating partner".

They are also seeking to add another class of prohibited people.

The additional class would be: those convicted of a "misdemeanor crime of stalking", which includes a "course of harassment, intimidation, or surveillance of another person.
Stalking or harassment does not include any physical harm. The crime of stalking or harassment is relatively knew, with the first laws being enacted in California in 1990.

The crime is defined to include creation of either a reasonable fear of material harm or emotional distress to another person.

With zealous prosecutors, it would be possible for a person to be convicted of harassment for a series of tweets that caused "emotional distress".

In many states, there is no right to trial by jury for misdemeanor offenses.

The general trend is easy to see. More and more classes of people who are prohibited from exercising their rights under the Second Amendment; less and less serious offenses are being used to take Second Amendment rights from people.

The expansion of the classes of prohibited persons and the expansion of offenses from felonies to misdemeanors results in a serious erosion of Second Amendment rights.

Several of the prohibited classes in existence have not been in existence for very long.
The Precious Prohibited Persons Doctrine, another in a long line of liberty destroying doctrines unchallenged by those who are conserving something, so we should vote for them.
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Re: HR 1585 moves to the Senate

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Summary: REPUBLICAN backed HR 1585, aka the “Violence Against Women Act” (VAWA), is a bill that is supposed to be about protecting women. However, the House of Representatives has decided to use this bill as a front for expanding extremely harmful gun regulations.

HR 1585 includes legislation for ex-parte gun confiscation, lifetime gun bans for misdemeanor charges, and would fund the CDC to do biased research on “Gun Violence”.

VAWA starts by expanding the list of persons who can file restraining orders against you to include vague definitions like “dating partners”. Meaning that VAWA will allow anyone who briefly interacted you to potentially file a restraining order. VAWA then allows for these restraining orders to be submitted to the court ex-parte (without your knowledge or ability to defend yourself). There, the court will hear a one-sided argumentation that will lead to ALL OF YOUR FIREARMS BEING CONFISCATED. More than likely, the court will then order “itchy trigger finger” law enforcement to come and confiscate your guns. This would leave you vulnerable to the police raiding your house, tear gassing your children, and shooting your dog. All of this based on the word of a possibly spiteful “dating partner” who you never called back.
“It’s not that we don’t have enough scoundrels to curse; it’s that we don’t have enough good men to curse them.”–G.K. Chesterton-Illustrated London News, 3-14-1908

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Re: HR 1585 moves to the Senate

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Action taken @ the link to the Firearms Policy Coalition.
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