Trump Overturns Obama-Era Law: Bans All Bump Stock Devices

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In Houston just yesterday, a federal prosecutor appears to have gotten cold feet. Right before the trial began, in the face of an ATF expert prepared to testify that bump stocks do not a machine gun make, the prosecutor withdrew the bump stock possession charge, proceeding only with charges facing less resistance.
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Soooo...

How much in legal fees and antacids did this fellow accrue for his ''win'' ?
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The United States Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals has ruled that bump stocks are not machine guns in the United States v. Ali Alkazahg.

Marine Corp Private Ali Akazahg was convicted of possessing two machine guns, in violation of Articles 83, 107, and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice [UCMJ]. These “machine guns” that Private Akazahg processed were bump stocks. The Private’s defense counsel argued that bump stocks did not meet the federal definition of machine guns. The ruling is found here and embedded below. US Military Courts Rules Bump Stocks Are Not Machine Guns.

A three-judge panel agreed with the defense, unanimously ruled that bump stocks do not meet the definition of a machine gun.
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Bump stock ban remains in place, as SCOTUS declines to hear the appeal from the 6th Circuit....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suprem ... -stock-ban" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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FormerNavy wrote:Bump stock ban remains in place, as SCOTUS declines to hear the appeal from the 6th Circuit....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suprem ... -stock-ban" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
it will be interesting to see if the refusal was on procedural grounds. If so, then there is still a chance later for the SCOTUS to hear it.

The MSM, even Fox News, will trumpet any loss and make a big deal out of how the gun culture will lose.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that Kavanaugh voted to not hear the case.
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Is there a digital trading card that empowers ATF to redefine everything as a machine gun?

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A Trump administration ban on bump stocks was struck down Friday by a federal appeals court in New Orleans. The ban was instituted after the Las Vegas attack in 2017. Gun rights advocates have challenged it in multiple courts. The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of appeals ruled 13-3 against the law, which will ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
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So bump stocks are illegal in the 6th circuit area, but legal in the 5th circuit area?
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M-Quigley wrote:So bump stocks are illegal in the 6th circuit area, but legal in the 5th circuit area?
Correct - that is, until SCOTUS hears the case and either overturns it completely or upholds it (unlikely).
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Get them before these figments of the digital world never end...

This whole thing is a WWF plot isn't it?
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bignflnut wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:41 pm MOAR DIGITAL TRADING CARDS

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Get them before these figments of the digital world never end...

This whole thing is a WWF plot isn't it?
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Brian D. wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:57 pm
bignflnut wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:41 pm MOAR DIGITAL TRADING CARDS

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This whole thing is a WWF plot isn't it?
"WWF" is the World Wildlife Foundation. "WWE" stands for Worldwide Wrestling Entertainment.

Those two organizations had a court fight over who had rights to using WWF several years ago. The animal advocates won.
Yes, I'm aware. And Trump was a character under the WWF banner, when it was entertaining.
Thank you for missing the point entirely.
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bignflnut wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:12 pm Thank you for missing the point entirely.
No, I was DISmissing the point entirely.
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2/28/18
President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons. {mosads}
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