Imcrazy wrote:Chuck wrote:Once we admit that “no one needs one, so it’s ok to ban them” we admit that there is a problem with that rate of fire.
Once we admit that we have a problem with law abiding citizens being able to use that rate of fire, we lose all credibility when they point out other you tubes that show the same rate of fire as a reason to ban the entire AR platform.
How are you (we) going to argue against an Ar ban when you (we) are already on record as saying no one should be permitted that rate of fire?
How do you guys who want this banned think the next move is going to play out?
Once you admit they're dangerous and reckless they should be off the streets for that reason, no one is saying it's because we don't need them... I don't need my concealed carry license or pistols that I carry, odd's are I will never need to defend myself.
The uncontrollable nature of the rate of fire is dangerous, the correlation between restricting full auto / bump stocks and a ban of semi auto firearms, is like saying speed limits on our roads will lead to outlawing cars with v8 motors. I think it will play out just like the full auto restrictions we already have in place and it will have zero effect on ownership of legitimate defensive tools like semi auto AR-15's etc... It's like saying that because you need a CDL to drive an 18 wheeler we're all going to need CDL's to drive 1/2 ton pickups...
Fireworks are dangerous, and people use them recklessly, too. Yet Ohio is considering making them legal.
Adults are supposed to be responsible enough to know risk vs. benefit, and act accordingly. If they use things irresponsibly, then they should face the consequences of the action.
How does it end, if we end up with the .gov as an all-wise parent, preventing us access to reckless and dangerous things? No one can drive more than 35 mph? Ban mountain climbing? Prohibit camping in bear country? No more bicycles or motorcycles? No more little red sports car that go really fast? Amish can't drive black buggies anymore; they need to be neon yellow? Maybe we should try prohibition again, since drinking can be associated with people doing reckless and dangerous things, not to mention the fights that occur.
Maybe we should ban Red Rider BB guns, because we'll shoot our eyes out.