Vote Fraud

[Bruenor]

I, too, had requested an absentee ballot and found that requesting one=a vote cast. That meant my option of going to the polls was eliminated without going through hoops to cast a provisional ballot and when will that vote be counted? I reckon I'll send the ballot in and hope nothing drastic changes in the last week before the election.

I was told you could cancel the absentee ballot if you do it early enough... Since I never ordered one i did not inquire about the procedure.

[FormerNavy]

I, too, had requested an absentee ballot and found that requesting one=a vote cast. That meant my option of going to the polls was eliminated without going through hoops to cast a provisional ballot and when will that vote be counted? I reckon I'll send the ballot in and hope nothing drastic changes in the last week before the election.

This is why I stopped voting absentee a few years ago.

[Bruenor]

A few ballots more..
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Over 100 absentee ballots were found among undelivered mail in Kentucky, officials confirmed.

A tipster alerted the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) on Thursday and special agents responded and recovered several different classes of mail, including 112 absentee ballots and two political advertisements, special agent Scott Balfour told The Epoch Times via email.

The ballots were not filled in because the mail had not been delivered, Balfour said.

The mail was intended for delivery in Jeffersontown.

USPS OIG officials already identified the employee responsible for discarding the mail. The person is no longer employed by the USPS, according to Balfour.

[bignflnut]

You asked for a lesser of two evils options...and now we have one, according to this pundit video.


The entire point of this thread has been that the ballot box is not any longer a viable option for peaceful revolution. Indeed this is where we find ourselves. They'll be so blatant in stealing it that you have to notice, otherwise, people want to put their collective heads in the sand, because to recognize the threat would be to become responsible for its success.




These are essentially the same statements, decades and centuries apart.

[bignflnut]

As of Sunday afternoon, more than 93 million Americans had cast a ballot in the November elections. That’s about two-thirds of the total number of people who voted in 2016, and there are still two days until Election Day.

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This all amounts to “a concerted national Republican effort across the country in every one of the states that has had a legal battle to make it harder for citizens to vote,” said Trevor Potter, a Republican lawyer who formerly led the Federal Election Commission and worked on both of John McCain’s presidential campaigns.

The effort has been turbocharged by President Trump, who has spent the past year falsely attacking the integrity of mail-in ballots. Mr. Trump’s lies have been echoed by the attorney general, William Barr, who has claimed that mail balloting is associated with “substantial fraud.” Not remotely true. Mr. Trump’s own handpicked F.B.I. director, Christopher Wray, has said there is no evidence of any coordinated voter-fraud effort. Scholars, researchers and judges have said for years that voting fraud of any kind is vanishingly rare in this country. That hasn’t stopped Republicans from alleging that it happens all the time. They know that accusations of fraud can be enough by themselves to confuse voters and drive down turnout.

When that tactic fails, Republicans turn to another tried-and-true one: voter intimidation. Frightening people, particularly Black people, away from the ballot box has a long history in the United States. Modern Republicans have done it so consistently that in 1982 a federal court barred the national party from engaging in any so-called anti-voter-fraud operations. The ban was renewed again and again over the decades, because Republicans kept violating it. In 2018, however, it expired, meaning that 2020 is the first election in which Republicans can intimidate with abandon.

All the while, Mr. Trump happily plays the part of intimidator in chief. He has urged his supporters to enlist in an “Army for Trump,” monitoring polls. “A lot of strange things happening in Philadelphia,” Mr. Trump said during a recent campaign stop in Pennsylvania. “We’re watching you, Philadelphia. We’re watching at the highest level.”

Narrative set: GOP hates it when people vote...they're going to disqualify SO many votes, but people want to vote (Biden).

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That’s why, if either of these laws is going to pass, it will require, at a minimum, voting out Republicans at every level who insist on suppressing the vote. Only then can those who believe in representative democracy for all Americans reset the rules and help ensure that everyone’s vote counts.

Let us do our vote fraud and then we can really be a democracy....not a republic.

[Javelin Man]

I dropped off my absentee ballot in off at the BOE office Saturday. It will be counted.

I was perturbed and upset by the texts and calls I received from people telling me my absentee ballot had not yet been received and to make sure I send it in so my vote counts! How the heck did they know my ballot wasn't delivered yet? How did they know I even requested an absentee ballot? Whatever happened to secret ballots? My wife did not request a ballot and did not receive any communicae.

[Aesinsp]

I dropped off my absentee ballot in off at the BOE office Saturday. It will be counted.

I was perturbed and upset by the texts and calls I received from people telling me my absentee ballot had not yet been received and to make sure I send it in so my vote counts! How the heck did they know my ballot wasn't delivered yet? How did they know I even requested an absentee ballot? Whatever happened to secret ballots? My wife did not request a ballot and did not receive any communicae.

Well after we'd submitted our absentee ballots, I've received multiple texts eluding to 'not submitted yet' etc.. I think that is just click bait.
Our's are status countable with the local BOE, per their website.

[bignflnut]

Isn't it SOP to only count absentee's / mail ins if the quantity of ballots is greater than the margin on election day?

As in, they're treated as a sort of provisional ballot that we only count after we determine that it might make a difference?

If you want your head to spin...try this link...

[bignflnut]

Let us do our vote fraud and then we can really be a democracy....not a republic.

And Fuoi-da-mor

But once belief in democracy becomes a political ideology, it’s necessarily transformed into majority rule. And, at that point, the majority (or even a plurality, a minority, or an individual) can enforce their will on everyone else by claiming to represent the will of the people.

The only form of democracy that suits a free society is economic democracy in the laissez-faire form, where each person votes with his money for what he wants in the marketplace. Only then can every individual obtain what he wants without compromising the interests of any other person. That’s the polar opposite of the “economic democracy” of socialist pundits who have twisted the term to mean the political allocation of wealth.

But many terms in politics wind up with inverted meanings. “Liberal” is certainly one of them.



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Protesters in the 1960s had their flaws, but they were quite correct when they said, “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.” If politics is the problem, what is the solution? I have an answer that may appeal to you.

The first step in solving the problem is to stop actively encouraging it.

Many Americans have intuitively recognized that government is the problem and have stopped voting. There are at least five reasons many people do not vote:

Voting in a political election is unethical. The political process is one of institutionalized coercion and force. If you disapprove of those things, then you shouldn’t participate in them, even indirectly.

Voting compromises your privacy. It gets your name in another government computer database.

Voting, as well as registering, entails hanging around government offices and dealing with petty bureaucrats. Most people can find something more enjoyable or productive to do with their time.

Voting encourages politicians. A vote against one candidate—a major, and quite understandable, reason why many people vote—is always interpreted as a vote for his opponent. And even though you may be voting for the lesser of two evils, the lesser of two evils is still evil. It amounts to giving the candidate a tacit mandate to impose his will on society.

Your vote doesn’t count. Politicians like to say it counts because it is to their advantage to get everyone into a busybody mode. But, statistically, one vote in scores of millions makes no more difference than a single grain of sand on a beach. That’s entirely apart from the fact that officials manifestly do what they want, not what you want, once they are in office.

Some of these thoughts may impress you as vaguely “unpatriotic”; that is certainly not my intention. But, unfortunately, America isn’t the place it once was, either. The United States has evolved from the land of the free and the home of the brave to something more closely resembling the land of entitlements and the home of whining lawsuit filers.


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I’m not intimating, incidentally, that people disinvolve themselves from their communities, social groups, or other voluntary organizations; just the opposite since those relationships are the lifeblood of society. But the political process, or government, is not synonymous with society or even complementary to it. Government is a dead hand on society.

So where does that leave us for the election coming up in a few days?

It’s likely to be the most important one in the country’s history, including that of 1860. Unfortunately, no matter how you vote, it’s unlikely to head off what history likely has in store for us. Something wicked this way comes.

[skylinechiliboi]

This whole election is ripe with fraud--on both sides unfortunately. At this point, I'm not sure either side (politican-wise) has their hearts set on what's best for the people. Now, I know some mighty fine Dems I have dinner with that aren't nuts. And I know some of ours who may need some mental help. But generally speaking, most common folk are radicalized one way or the other. I just hope we can get through election with minimal bloodshed and damage to the country. Say what you will about me, but i don't think wishing that all Americans stay safe in this time is too crazy.

[bignflnut]

Yet some pointed out a bizarre pick up in Michigan Biden votes, who picked up 138K votes without a single vote going to Trump:

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Said otherwise, as the Federalist's Sean Davis notes, Democrats in Michigan "magically" found a trove of 138,339 votes, and all 138,339 of those "votes" magically went to Biden?

So while everyone was asleep and after everyone went home, Democrats in Michigan magically found a trove of 138,339 votes, and all 138,339 of those "votes" magically went to Biden? That doesn't look suspicious at all. https://t.co/6w1MFoVhfg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 4, 2020

A similar odd jump took place in Wisconsin:

At 6 AM this morning Joe Biden magically gained +100K votes in Wisconsin and Michigan!?!?!
There is zero explanation for this.
What is happening?
This is INSANE! pic.twitter.com/pIVHvA4nV9
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) November 4, 2020



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As a result, Biden is now a 75% odds-on favorite to win the presidency at Betfair, a dramatic reversal from earlier when Trump was seen as an 80%-odds favorite. Why? Because if Biden holds onto his lead in Nevada and Wisconsin, he would need to win only one of three states — Georgia, Michigan or Pennsylvania — to secure a majority of electoral votes, and could still lose North Carolina.

[bignflnut]

Jeff Dufour
@dcdufour
The latest plot twist comes from Arizona, which had reportedly counted 95%+ of its votes. NYT notes that "due to an error in an Edison Research data feed of results ... the actual estimate is that 86% of the vote has been counted."

[bignflnut]

Let us do our vote fraud and then we can really be a democracy....not a republic.

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Everyone sees the DEMOCRACY 2020 headliner all over Fox News, right?

[bignflnut]

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
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If Republicans in AZ don't get into court very quickly to institute oversight on the corrupt Dem in charge of Maricopa County, he's going to steal the election there for Biden. In light of Fox's call, pretty obvious he's pausing vote counts and hoping WI/MI get called for Biden.

[ArmedAviator]

I suspect there's going to be quite a few states recounting ballots later this month. So many close races. So many suspect actions and results by one side. 138,000 votes and 0 for Trump all of a sudden in MI? Told to use and given a Sharpie despite being explicitly listed not to on the ballot itself in AZ? All of these previously red states where Trump was leading then suddenly the counts come to a grinding halt? Come on, man....