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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby bignflnut » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:20 am

Sen Sasse is not a fan of the Trumpster:

Republican Sen. Ben Sasse excoriated President Trump in a telephone conference call with constituents this week, saying he had mishandled the coronavirus response, "kisses dictators' butts," "sells out our allies," spends "like a drunken sailor," mistreats women, and trash-talks evangelicals behind their backs.


I'd add how he sells out the NRA/pro RKBA constituency.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby Klingon00 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:05 pm

bignflnut wrote:How do you feel about the Early September list being entirely discarded in favor of ACB?


Amy Coney Barret was always on his list of 25 from 2016. The additional 20 names didn't bump that original list. This was spelled out in media reports at the time so shouldn't have been a surprise. Honestly what I care most about is someone that will uphold the constitution, especially the second amendment.

In that there appears to be evidence that she will. She is Scalia's legacy after all so it stands to reason (though never guaranteed unfortunately).

Still all this may be moot if Biden packs the supreme court.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby Javelin Man » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:48 pm

Biden says the American voter deserves to know his stand on packing the court and will tell the voters before election day.

This, of course, alienates all those who have voted early or will vote early as the Dems have advocated so much.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby skylinechiliboi » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:45 am

The best way to prevent Biden from packing the court is to ensure he doesn't get the chance. Go out and vote.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby bignflnut » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:59 am

Election TIME:

NRA axed Trumpster if he would sign Concealed Carry Natty Reciprocity --do you remember this from 2015? SQUEEEEEEEE-- and he said that he would sign it!

Hey, we're talking RKBA!!!! WoooooHOOOOOO!

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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby bignflnut » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:13 am

Think back to the euphoria of Trump being elected in 2016. Do you recall the list of Pro-RKBA agenda items you were hopeful, particularly with the GOP controlling the House and Senate, would be introduced and possibly enacted over the Trump presidency?

Flashback to reality: Ammoland has a GOA authored list of the Top 10 Trump Pro-RKBA accomplishments. (Spoiler Alert: Zero legislative successes are mentioned. Very few concrete positive accomplishments. The first two are SCOTUS justices and a promise to sign Natty Reciprocity.)

The big kaboom at the end is that, predictably, HRC was defeated...so it was as good as it was going to get that November 9th morning in 2016....

And, of course, this is the setup again...Biden/Harris is an existential threat to everything in the Republic and holding that off for another few years is simultaneously the floor and the ceiling.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby M-Quigley » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:28 am

bignflnut wrote:Think back to the euphoria of Trump being elected in 2016. Do you recall the list of Pro-RKBA agenda items you were hopeful, particularly with the GOP controlling the House and Senate, would be introduced and possibly enacted over the Trump presidency?

Flashback to reality: Ammoland has a GOA authored list of the Top 10 Trump Pro-RKBA accomplishments. (Spoiler Alert: Zero legislative successes are mentioned. Very few concrete positive accomplishments. The first two are SCOTUS justices and a promise to sign Natty Reciprocity.)

The big kaboom at the end is that, predictably, HRC was defeated...so it was as good as it was going to get that November 9th morning in 2016....

And, of course, this is the setup again...Biden/Harris is an existential threat to everything in the Republic and holding that off for another few years is simultaneously the floor and the ceiling.


I was never one of the people who thought actual pro gun legislation was going to be enacted, mainly due to RINO's in the Senate. Nor was I very concerned about the Democrats being able to push through a lot of anti gun legislation through the Senate at that time. My concern in 2016 was simpler than that. HRC said if she's elected that she had an anti gun litmus test for justices and Trump said he would nominate people from the Federalist society. Trump has kept his promise on that. It doesn't guarantee that SCOTUS will decide a gun case the right way but it's a heck of a lot better than having a majority of the court composed of RGB types who says the BOR only means what they personally want it to mean. The decision that said the 2nd is an individual right only happened because of one justice, so the type of person who sits on the court matters. You're never going to stop some cities or states from enacting unconstitutional laws so we need appeals courts and SCOTUS to deal with them.

Thanks to the potential issue of court packing if the Dem's retake the Senate (which in all likelihood they will) who the president is matters. If Biden is elected and the Dem's take the Senate, they run the whole board, and nothing will stop them from enacting whatever they want. Don't count on the 2nd amendment to stop this either. A 15 member SCOTUS with a lot of RBG types will uphold whatever they pass, will merely claim it doesn't violate the 2nd when it clearly does.

So yes, who wins the presidency and what party controls the Senate matters in 2020. Yes it's playing defense, but I'd rather play defense than lose altogether.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby bignflnut » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm

M-Quigley wrote:So yes, who wins the presidency and what party controls the Senate matters in 2020. Yes it's playing defense, but I'd rather play defense than lose altogether.


Not who, but what "party", right? (Don't think that Mr. Take the Guns first, then due process, will abstain from cutting deals with those in power on Capitol Hill)

I posted this in the Vote Fraud thread, but it equally applies here...we're only delaying the inevitable...perhaps making it more inevitable as only those educated prior to a certain date are continuing to exit voting rolls (and they're ones buying the defensive strategy). We're pushing the confrontation to a place where we will be less and less effective -- See the RNC absence of RKBA agenda.
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Re: Trump, Gun Free Zones and Day One

Postby WhyNot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:12 am

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