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Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby Pops Fun » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:01 am

Hi
My second post in a day, maybe a new record lol
I have a gripe about people I guess.. So everyone on here is pro gun rah rah!!
Why can't we get 4 thousand people to the state house? This has been on my mind a lot..
There are a lot of concealed carry licenses out there. In 2017 the Enquirer said there were "652,000 Ohio residents have active concealed carry licenses" ??
[https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/03/02/guns-ohio-one-20-ohioans-have-concealed-carry-permit-new-report-shows/386636002/][/url]
Why do gun groups get less than a thousand people to come to the State House. I figured 5 or 6 hundred at the last couple I've been at. That might be generous. I have been at larger rallies but not for many years, might have been a thousand ?? Walked around the Capital.. It was cold I remember.

Last one I was at, it was embarrassing, OFFC and OGO had Senators and Representatives speak, :oops: I wondered if in their mind they thought it was a waste of time??
How can we get bills passed without peoples interest?? Senators and Representatives will think no one cares, think of what OFCC could be if the Legislators sat up and noticed THAT PEOPLE CARED!!
I appreciate gun groups work really... I just don't understand gun owners.

Delaware gets more people out and look at the size difference..

To me it shows where priorities are in peoples mind, I am sad!! :cry:

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Re: Interest in gun right... ?? gripe

Postby AlanM » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:21 am

I totally agree.
Virginia has a population of 8.5 million compared to Ohio's 11.7 million and yet the Virginia Civilian Defense League is able to get people to drive themselves or pay for their tickets on chartered busses to show up by the hundreds for Lobby Day in Richmond every year.

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This was Lobby Day 2019.

OFCC can't even get that many people to show up for the Party in the Park. Granted that's really not as important as your gun rights, but still.

Right now, in Virginia, there is a concerted push on to get the boards of supervisors of all the VA counties and as many as possible of the independent cities to declare themselves Second Amendment Sanctuaries.
So many local residents are showing up at the County Board meetings that the crowds overflow out into the halls and lawns of the meeting places. At least one meeting venue was moved to a local high school gym to accommodate the expected (and actual) turnout.
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby Pops Fun » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:57 am

Hi
I realize that people are busy, children and family's mean a lot to me. Mine are grown, and I am retired which makes it easier, I have brought my son and grandson to rallies.
It bothers me that we can't get a crowd for 1 or even 2 days a year. There are plenty of excuses... I have my own. lol I have missed the last 2 party's in the park, not sure why...
Buses are a good idea, rode a bus to Washington for a rally a while back it was fun. I don't consider myself as all gun-ho, but I think people could take a couple days a year for there priorities, I just don't understand.. :(
Perhaps more coverage at gun ranges would get the word out better! I don't know if people don't care or don't know!!

I realize it's easier to type than show up at a rally..
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby Brian D. » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:18 am

We've gotten the biggest Statehouse crowds on weekends. Trouble with that, the legislators aren't usually there for us to yell at. :lol:

The biggest crowd I ever saw was when Columbus passed their first "assault weapons" ban. Thousands (I mean, at least 10,000) OGCA members and other gun rights folks from across Ohio marched from the OGCA meeting at Vets Memorial Coliseum to the Statehouse. Cops had to close Broad Street for us.

That night the media grossly under-reported the turnout, and gave the story virtually no coverage, even in Columbus. Totally off the radar everywhere else. Oh, and only a few, pro-gun legislators showed up to talk to us.
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby Pops Fun » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:54 am

Well color me surprised...
Brian I missed that ....
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Brian D. wrote:We've gotten the biggest Statehouse crowds on weekends. Trouble with that, the legislators aren't usually there for us to yell at. :lol:

The biggest crowd I ever saw was when Columbus passed their first "assault weapons" ban. Thousands (I mean, at least 10,000) OGCA members and other gun rights folks from across Ohio marched from the OGCA meeting at Vets Memorial Coliseum to the Statehouse. Cops had to close Broad Street for us.

That night the media grossly under-reported the turnout, and gave the story virtually no coverage, even in Columbus. Totally off the radar everywhere else. Oh, and only a few, pro-gun legislators showed up to talk to us.
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby Bruenor » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:15 pm

the 2A rally in DC on November 2nd 2019, drew only around 2,000 people.
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/11/2nd-am ... ington-dc/

We (self included) definitely need to do better.
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby rickt » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:04 am

VCDL has a good reputation as an effective state-level gun rights organization. If there are any other organizations in Virginia,I have never heard of them.

Meanwhile, the Ohio gun rights movement is fragmented into five organizations: OFCC, BFA, Ohio Gun Owners, Ohio Carry and Ohio Rifle and Pistol Association. How can an organization organize a large, effective rally when it only can communicate with a small percentage of Ohio gun owners?
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby kcclark » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:17 am

I've been at two rallies at the statehouse this year. Both times I was disappointed in how many people showed. BUT, I gotta believe attendance would have been WAY better if the situation we faced was similar to what is happening in VA right now. Ohio gun owners are confident the current legislature is not going to pass a bunch of draconian anti-gun laws so no pressing reason to disrupt their weekend with a trip to the statehouse.
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Re: Interest in gun rights... ?? gripe

Postby bignflnut » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:24 pm

Red statehouse, red governor seated in Ohio. How do you motivate people to protest the ones they put in office?
Virginia is staring down the wrong end of the barrel, they're excited.
Ohio is asleep.
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