carmen fovozzo wrote:Like I said....before I touch my firearm even after LEO tells me to remove it, he can arrest me first....
Regarding the issue of touching a gun at the direction of an LEO, I had a discussion a long time back with an aquantance of mine regarding this subject. His opinion was that, as a black man, he was concerned that if an LEO directed him to do anything that involved him personally touching the gun that the LEO (or some other LEO arriving on scene) could then shoot him and claim the CHL holder was going for his gun in an attempt to misuse it. While
I might think that is an unlikely scenario, that is the concern for some people interacting with the police. This conversation took place just before the Philando Castile shooting, and that shooting didn't exactly change this perception of law enforcement in a positive way among the black people that I know.
Back in the day before licensed carry, the SOP for the agencies I was involved with was if you encountered a civilian with a concealed handgun that you wanted disarmed, the LEO disarmed the suspect, period. You didn't ask the suspect to disarm themselves. Perhaps a currect LEO could chime in about what is typically done today with CHL's
if the LEO wanted someone disarmed just for a traffic stop, absent an arrest.