curmudgeon3 wrote:Sounds like it might be a little tough defending oneself in court for using a gun against the spray. Just a guess.
Couldn't find any legal case records in a brief search.
Nor would I ever think that getting sprayed is justification for deadly force. That wasn't the point of this exercise.
Towards this end of things:http://fox8.com/2016/09/09/three-teens- ... cleveland/
The victim was parking her car near West 65th Street and Detroit Avenue at about 7 p.m. when a boy, who appeared 13 years old, asked to use her phone. Police said the woman refused so the teen asked for money.
The woman refused again and started to walk away when two other teens ran up and used pepper spray on her, Cleveland police said. The boys tried to grab her purse, but they fled when the victim screamed.
How do we continue to protect ourselves or our loved ones after being sprayed?
At what point will you escalate to deadly force? What considerations should we keep in-mind as we draw our firearm?
If the situation escalates to the need to use deadly force to defend ourselves, how do we elaborate on this to properly communicate what we felt in the moment?
I think these are questions worth asking ourselves, in light both of the excellent exercise conducted by the OP and his friend, as well as in light of this recent event.
And when it rains, it pours!
I'm late reading this week's Weekend Knowledge Dump email blast from Greg Ellifritz. Within was this gem:https://activeselfprotection.com/office ... e-suspect/
From Active Self Protection, an article (with video) with the title: "Officer Shot After Pepper Spray Fails to Subdue Suspect"
Something to keep in-mind, balancing the scenario I posed above.