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schmieg wrote:There is an ongoing criminal case here. The OP should not be saying anything without counsel's approval and attempting to get him to admit anything is not helpful. We really shouldn't be discussing this until facts are know and, if the OP is smart, no more facts will be known until the case gets to trial. I think this should be locked if this continues.

pjmurph wrote:

TheLawOwnsMe wrote:Upon leaving the store and getting in my truck, I remembered and decided to take the one out the chamber. For legal reasons it makes less sense for me to get into what I remember of this. Suffice to say, I moved my hand in its direction and it went off. It shot me in the foot. Here, I really wouldn't say that I discharged or caused the gun to be discharged. That would mean I meant to shoot it in the direction of my foot. What if something fell into place causing it to go off. What if the gun had fallen and went off?..... I've never seen the firearm so i don't know if there was a malfunction of the firearm or cartridge. I know for a fact that manual safety failed.

You absolutely caused the gun to discharge. Saying that "it shot me in the foot" is the same as gun grabbers saying that those assault weapons are evil. YOU shot YOURSELF in the foot, do not blame an inanimate object for your negligence. You may not have intentionally fired the round but you absolutely caused that round to fire, due to negligence. I'm not sure what you mean by you have never seen the firearm. Also, the manual safety did what you made it do. Would you blame your parking break for failing when you left your car in neutral on a hillside?

Many NDs occur as a result of unnecessary handling of a loaded weapon, which appears to be the case in this situation. My best guess of the events is as follows:
You remembered that you had a round chambered and wished to remove it. Your firearm has a manual safety, and many firearms require the manual safety to be disengaged in order to rack the slide. You disengaged the manual safety and attempted to remove the round from the chamber. You likely put your finger inside the trigger guard and onto the trigger as you went to rack the slide. You tensed up as you went to rack the slide and in doing so pulled the trigger, discharging the firearm sending the round downward and into your foot.

As stated above, there is a possibility of a mechanical malfunction in your firearm, but that is the exception not the rule. Based on your explanation of the situation and your handling of your firearm I would guess that you fall under the category of "the rule".

steves 50de wrote:

pjmurph wrote:

TheLawOwnsMe wrote:
Can i use your crystal ball when your done with it.

schmieg wrote:There is an ongoing criminal case here. The OP should not be saying anything without counsel's approval and attempting to get him to admit anything is not helpful. We really shouldn't be discussing this until facts are know and, if the OP is smart, no more facts will be known until the case gets to trial. I think this should be locked if this continues.

... I moved my hand in its direction and it went off. It shot me in the foot.

BobK wrote: I totally agree.

I would also like to point out that greeting a brand new visitor with contempt/scorn/rebukes and similar is not only rude, but it certainly doesn't help to attract him or other newbies to stay and visit.

To the OP, I'd like to say WELCOME, and hope you can ignore some of the sanctimonious lectures and feel welcome to participate.

MyWifeSaidYes wrote:It's hard to avoid snarky retorts when faced with comments like this:

... I moved my hand in its direction and it went off. It shot me in the foot.

If your gun is going to discharge by itself, your gun sucks.

If you are not capable of safely handling a gun with a round in the chamber, your training sucks.

If you are not capable of taking responsibility when you screw up, ...