I suppose it depends upon how you define "abusive".
No, definitions are not necessary. Where ever you draw the line, if humans are involved, some will always be beyond the line.Of course you have to define "misfit".
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I suppose it depends upon how you define "abusive".
No, definitions are not necessary. Where ever you draw the line, if humans are involved, some will always be beyond the line.Of course you have to define "misfit".
Yes, but WHOSE "line"?OhioPaints wrote:I suppose it depends upon how you define "abusive".No, definitions are not necessary. Where ever you draw the line, if humans are involved, some will always be beyond the line.Of course you have to define "misfit".
That depends on how one defines "dangerous."Metal1 wrote:This misinformation about LEO's having a "dangerous" job gets repeated over and over. It doesn't even make the top 10 in most years. Even then it isn't because of shootings or inherent danger but traffic accidents.
Nest time you see a roofer or a fisherman you'll relaize a dangerous job.
I'd like to say something about this claim - which is probably unsupported - but I won't. I think it speaks for itself.Thug Hunter wrote:One difference between deaths of cops and most other professions appears to be that the people killed in other professions were very likely to have caused or contributed to their own deaths, while the deaths of police officers are usually the fault of other people.
charliej47 wrote: When I was growing up I was taught to be polite to my elders, strangers and to be helpful to all people.
I can remember having numerous encounters with the police as a child and teen. All of us had fairly good rapport with the local police. we knew most of their names and they knew us.
I would say that things started to change in the 90s where the police stopped being "officer friendly" and started becoming an adversary.
As one person stated most of us only report the bad and not the good. I try to report both. It just seems that there are more bad than good.
In the last 16 months, I have had about 6 encounters. Only one where I was stopped because of a bad light. The other 5 were do to trespass issues and such. All of the other issues I was the innocent party or bystander that got pulled in to the issue. All of the encounters I was treated in such a manner as to make me feel that I was a second class citizen.
Welcome to the forum! And welcome to the CC community!omp wrote:I was raised to believe that police officers were friendly and willing and able to help.
I've read through this topic and have read so many stories online about world events. I am nervous and I have never done anything wrong.
I am new to the conceal carry community. I joined this forum for advice and information.
Bullying is "only" part of it...... it's "much more than that"......the discussion I've had with others along with the psychologist has opened my eye's to understanding this mental disorder.catfish86 wrote:You are referring to the "bully" personality type of LEO. Most LE organizations try to weed these types out. There is an elivated risk of them over reacting to situations (you end up with pregnant women tasered when pulled over for speeding).
I'm not saying definitively that they DON'T, but what's your evidence that they DO? Over the years, I haven't seen much behavioral evidence that demonstrates that to be true. In fact, I've repeatedly seen quite the opposite.catfish86 wrote:You are referring to the "bully" personality type of LEO. Most LE organizations try to weed these types out.
And in a LARGE percentage of those incidents, you will see the perpetrators justified and their actions determined to be "within departmental policy".catfish86 wrote:There is an elivated risk of them over reacting to situations (you end up with pregnant women tasered when pulled over for speeding).
The bulk of your experience has been with urban police departments, yes?deanimator wrote:I'm not saying definitively that they DON'T, but what's your evidence that they DO? Over the years, I haven't seen much behavioral evidence that demonstrates that to be true. In fact, I've repeatedly seen quite the opposite.catfish86 wrote:You are referring to the "bully" personality type of LEO. Most LE organizations try to weed these types out.
As well as small town departments. Admittedly, the Fulton, MO PD were more "Dumb and Dumber" than "Training Day".Werz wrote:The bulk of your experience has been with urban police departments, yes?deanimator wrote:I'm not saying definitively that they DON'T, but what's your evidence that they DO? Over the years, I haven't seen much behavioral evidence that demonstrates that to be true. In fact, I've repeatedly seen quite the opposite.catfish86 wrote:You are referring to the "bully" personality type of LEO. Most LE organizations try to weed these types out.
Perhaps. But many who live in exurban environments do so quite intentionally. In urban police departments, the increased thuggery in the departments match nicely the increased thuggery on the streets. That's why many of us choose not to live there.deanimator wrote:Of course if you live in Cleveland or Columbus, what the cops do in Fremont or Tiffin is of primarily academic interest.