Shooting death and injury on Alec Baldwin movie set.

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Re: Shooting death and injury on Alec Baldwin movie set.

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TSiWRX wrote:Whoa! Thanks for the info., @drc and @Bruenor!

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Face wrote:One thing I have not seen mentioned here, or elsewhere except for one interview with a Hollywood prop guy/armorer. He stated once they give an actor a firearm if the cylinder is opened or the slide "racked" the prop master or whoever in charge at the time must immediately remove the gun from the actor and re-check.

So IF Baldwin checked the cylinder, he would then need to hand the gun to the armorer (or whoever) and start over.

In short - actors are instructed to NOT check any firearm personally.

No idea if this was that armorer's personal rules or an industry standard.
I have seen an interview with a Hollywood armorer and several articles that say something different, that the actor handling the gun and anyone else on the set are encouraged to check the weapon for themselves. Now, the way it was presented is they all come together in a circle and all get the chance to check it, so perhaps the armorer checks it one last time before handing it to the actor, it wasn't clear from what I remember of the interview and articles. But bottom line, it shouldn't be a problem for the actor to check it before handing it to the armorer for a cinal check.
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Re: Shooting death and injury on Alec Baldwin movie set.

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For years I have made a hoby of creating new lyrics to popular music, generally to make fun of one person or another. From the moment I first saw the Rust story, my brain latched onto it and wouldn't let go.
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Call me sick and twisted... I know that it is a macabre subject... BUT.. I got a Bon Jovi tune stuck in my head. It took zero effort for new verses to pop into my head. Strip the music out of "You give love a bad name" https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... peRKPTdtjc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Remove the songs original lyrics, And paste in the new substitute verbiage...
I tried to place the new and old side by side... but I lack the technical know how to make it work. everything just gets mixed up when I do. Soooo...

Original...

Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
Darlin', you give love a bad name
An angel's smile is what you sell
You promise me Heaven, then put me through hell
Chains of love got a hold on me
When passion's a prison, you can't break free
Oh, you're a loaded gun, yeah
Oh, there's nowhere to run
No one can save me
The damage is done
Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give love a bad name (bad name)
I play my part and you play your game
You give love a bad name (bad name)
Hey, you give love, a bad name
Paint your smile on your lips
Blood red nails on your fingertips
A school boy's dream, you act so shy
Your very first kiss was your first kiss goodbye
Whoa, you're a loaded gun
Whoa, there's nowhere to run
No one can save me
The damage is done
Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give love a bad name (bad name)
I play my part and you play your game
You give love a bad name (bad name)
You give love, oh
Oh, shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give love a bad name
I play my part and you play your game
You give love a bad name (bad name)
Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give love a bad name (bad name)
I play my part and you play your game
You give love a bad name (bad name)
You give love
You give love (bad name)
You give love
You give love (bad name)
You give love
You give love (bad name)
You give love
You give love




New...


Hot gun on the set!
Just grab and aim…
Baldwin, You give guns a bad name!
Who’s job was it? Who can tell?
Your safety sucks, like the crap that you sell.
I don’t know who gave the gun to me…
Lost track of the chain of custody…
No, it ain’t a loaded gun… Nahh…
Oh, This is gonna be fun..
I point it at Halyna,
And Flash! Bang! We’re done!
I shot her in the heart
Now who’s to blame?
I give guns a bad name! (bad name)
I had a brain fart, and I show no shame…
I give guns a bad name! (bad name)
Yeah, I give guns a bad name!
With a stupid grin on my lips…
Colt hanging from my fingertips…
It just went BOOM, I don’t know why…
The real acting starts as I make up my lies!
Whoa, Who gave me the gun?
Whoa, Just turn tail and run…
I won’t let them blame me
You traitorous scum!
I shot Her in the heart,
And I got no shame….
I give guns a bad name! (bad name)
I played the part, but I’ll pass the blame…
I give Rust a bad name! (bad name)
I give Rust, Oh
I shot her in the heart,
Safety is just a game!
Now I’m passing off the blame.
I pointed my gun as she shot each frame…
Don’t ask me to take the blame! (the blame)
It wasn’t my fault,
It went Flash, Bang!
Now I NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME!
I WIGGLED MY THUMB,
AND IT JUST WENT, BANG!
I give Rust a bad name!
I give Guns a bad name! (I didn’t do it)
I give Guns a bad name!
I give Guns a bad name!(It went off by itself)
I give Guns a bad name!
I give Guns a bad name!(Devil made me do it)
I give Guns a bad name!
I give Guns a bad name! (I’m going to get sued for this…)


I can't get it out of my head. Is there anyone here with the skills and talents to rip the soundtrack out of this and substitute the lyrics? I know that it is wrong on a dozen different levels,.. but call me twisted.

Is there someone else out there as twisted as I who can lend me a hand with this??? LOL I might also seek out some help on my "Let's go Brandon" song.....
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Max fine levied by NM OSHA

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New Mexico workplace safety regulators on Wednesday issued the maximum possible fine of nearly $137,000 against a film production company for firearms safety failures on the set of “Rust” where actor and producer Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer in October.

New Mexico’s Occupational Health and Safety Bureau said Rust Movie Productions must pay $136,793, and distributed a scathing narrative of safety failures in violation of standard industry protocols, including testimony that production managers took limited or no action to address two misfires on set prior to the fatal shooting. The bureau also documented gun safety complaints from crew members that went unheeded and said weapons specialists were not allowed to make decisions about additional safety training.
“The Safety Coordinator was present on set and took no direct action to address safety concerns,” the report states. “Management was provided with multiple opportunities to take corrective actions and chose not to do so. As a result of these failures, Director Joel Souza and cinematographer Halyna Hutchins were severely injured. Halyna Hutchins succumbed to her injuries.”

Rust Movie Productions said through a spokesperson that it would dispute the findings and sanction.

“While we appreciate OSHA’s time and effort in its investigation, we disagree with its findings and plan to appeal,” said Stefan Friedman. Any appeal would be heard initially by the state’s occupational health and safety commission.

Baldwin issued a statement from his attorney, asserting that the safety investigation “exonerates Mr. Baldwin.”
of course he did...
Investigators found production managers placed tight limits on resources for a small team that controlled weapons on set and failed to address concerns about a shotgun left unattended twice.

Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the daughter of a sharpshooter and consultant to film productions, was limited to eight paid days as an armorer to oversee weapons and training, and was assigned otherwise to lighter duties as a props assistant. As her time as an armorer ran out, Gutierrez Reed warned a manager and was rebuffed.

Gutierrez Reed is both a plaintiff and a defendant in lawsuits seeking damages in the fatal shooting. In a statement Wednesday, her attorney highlighted findings that the armorer “was not provided adequate time or resources to conduct her job effectively.”
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IMO it doesn't matter if the armorer "was on the set" or not, if her bosses had really assigned her to be somewhere else and doing some other job and they didn't pull her off that job while they were handling the firearms, as is alleged by her lawyers, they are at fault, not her.
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