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Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun violence

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:07 am
by Bruenor
Heaven forbid you arrest them, criminally charge them, and then seize their assets. Nah don't want to incarcerate anyone, we'll just sue them in civil court.

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"As a city we are using every tool to push back against the gangs that are leaving a trail of blood, death and misery in their wake," Lightfoot said, according to the report. If successful in their legal efforts, the city could thwart gangs’ activities by seizing property, such as weapons, money and vehicles.

"What we are proposing is a tool in civil courts that gives us the opportunity to go after those gangs that are wreaking havoc," Lightfoot reportedly said, "and in particular, take away the profit motive from them by seizing assets that they have been able to purchase because of their violent activity in our neighborhoods."


what will they think of next. :roll:

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:46 pm
by FormerNavy
Bruenor wrote:Heaven forbid you arrest them, criminally charge them, and then seize their assets. Nah don't want to incarcerate anyone, we'll just sue them in civil court.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-gun- ... shed-gangs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"As a city we are using every tool to push back against the gangs that are leaving a trail of blood, death and misery in their wake," Lightfoot said, according to the report. If successful in their legal efforts, the city could thwart gangs’ activities by seizing property, such as weapons, money and vehicles.

"What we are proposing is a tool in civil courts that gives us the opportunity to go after those gangs that are wreaking havoc," Lightfoot reportedly said, "and in particular, take away the profit motive from them by seizing assets that they have been able to purchase because of their violent activity in our neighborhoods."


what will they think of next. :roll:

Admittedly I didn't read the story... and whether you agree with it or not, I thought they could seize stuff right now if used in conjunction with criminal activity??

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:11 pm
by EricTheBald
Apparently, Beetlejuice wants to try everything that wont work, before trying anything that does.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:21 pm
by Bruenor
FormerNavy wrote:
Bruenor wrote:Heaven forbid you arrest them, criminally charge them, and then seize their assets. Nah don't want to incarcerate anyone, we'll just sue them in civil court.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-gun- ... shed-gangs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"As a city we are using every tool to push back against the gangs that are leaving a trail of blood, death and misery in their wake," Lightfoot said, according to the report. If successful in their legal efforts, the city could thwart gangs’ activities by seizing property, such as weapons, money and vehicles.

"What we are proposing is a tool in civil courts that gives us the opportunity to go after those gangs that are wreaking havoc," Lightfoot reportedly said, "and in particular, take away the profit motive from them by seizing assets that they have been able to purchase because of their violent activity in our neighborhoods."


what will they think of next. :roll:

Admittedly I didn't read the story... and whether you agree with it or not, I thought they could seize stuff right now if used in conjunction with criminal activity??
I do believe they can seize any assets that were obtained from criminal means, or the profits from selling drugs, etc.. but then you have to charge them with the offense, and prosecute them.. she seems to want to skip that part. so leave the criminals on the streets, but take their assets.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:21 pm
by Aesinsp
EricTheBald wrote:Apparently, Beetlejuice wants to try everything that wont work, before trying anything that does.
Oh No you didn't.. LOL
That isn't far off at all.
More related to the topic at hand, this gives the added fluff to throw into a press release to paint the narrative that they are trying to do something.. Something to fill the echo chamber.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:41 am
by WhyNot
Perhaps they are attempting an end run around their own revolving door legal system :P . Charge dude, he gets out on .0000005% bail and disappears. So when you DO locate him, again & again and, again again, don't run him through that system just take his stuff. His stuff is more a stationary target I suppose.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:43 am
by deanimator
The IRS could have rolled the gangs up decades ago, the way they got Capone.

But then they'd have to WANT to, and have cooperation from the cravenly corrupt city "government" and police.

Both of those institutions are HEAVILY compromised by the gangs.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:47 pm
by steves 50de
deanimator wrote:The IRS could have rolled the gangs up decades ago, the way they got Capone.

But then they'd have to WANT to, and have cooperation from the cravenly corrupt city "government" and police.

Both of those institutions are HEAVILY compromised by the gangs.
Gang's make millions,... city hall and the cops MAY get a cut of those millions.
Just sayin. :? :?: It is Chicago.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:32 pm
by deanimator
steves 50de wrote:
deanimator wrote:The IRS could have rolled the gangs up decades ago, the way they got Capone.

But then they'd have to WANT to, and have cooperation from the cravenly corrupt city "government" and police.

Both of those institutions are HEAVILY compromised by the gangs.
Gang's make millions,... city hall and the cops MAY get a cut of those millions.
Just sayin. :? :?: It is Chicago.
MAY???

It's a documented fact that aldermen use gang members in their "get out the vote" efforts. Chicago cops have been caught supplying gang members with information and even duffle bags full of ammunition.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:08 am
by WY_Not
Surprised they didn't just skip the trial and go straight to "civil" forfeiture.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:05 am
by Brian D.
Railroad cop friend told me guns got stolen right off trains in the Chicago yards. Somehow they knew exactly where the guns were, when to break into the property, and the local cops somehow never caught anybody.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:51 am
by deanimator
Brian D. wrote:Railroad cop friend told me guns got stolen right off trains in the Chicago yards. Somehow they knew exactly where the guns were, when to break into the property, and the local cops somehow never caught anybody.
I wonder what would happen if the BATFE went after the Chicago PD and started getting search warrants for their homes...

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:02 pm
by Brian D.
I doubt BATFE under the current administration would make any effort to crack that but.

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:40 am
by OhioPaints
EricTheBald wrote:Apparently, Beetlejuice wants to try everything that wont work, before trying anything that does.

I think you are only half right. The never will try anything that works, they might end up arresting themselves and friends.

There is too much support for the criminals in Chicago.

Ken

Re: Chicago to sue gangs and seize assets to reduce gun viol

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:14 am
by deanimator
OhioPaints wrote:
EricTheBald wrote:Apparently, Beetlejuice wants to try everything that wont work, before trying anything that does.

I think you are only half right. The never will try anything that works, they might end up arresting themselves and friends.

There is too much support for the criminals in Chicago.

Ken
If the FBI REALLY investigated Chicago corruption, 99% of the City Council would be in prison, along with 75% of the Chicago Police Department. And the rest would just be too dumb or too obviously flaky to work themselves into any lucrative arrangements.