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Re: Kenosha
Here's the link to Portland Riot analysis / maps.
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Re: Kenosha
Bruenor wrote:Off he goes to Wisconsin and $2 Mill Bail. Bail seems pretty steep, do they think this kid is some sort of major flight risk ?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/bre ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Lake County authorities on Friday afternoon handed off Kyle Rittenhouse to police in Wisconsin, where he faces charges stemming from the fatal shooting of two men and the wounding of a third during August protests in Kenosha, officials said.
Shortly after a judge ruled the Antioch 17-year-old should be extradited, Lake County sheriff’s deputies drove him to the border and passed him to deputies from the Kenosha County sheriff’s department, said Sgt. Christopher Covelli, of the Lake County sheriff’s office.Pierce, one of the teen’s lawyers, announced at the start of the hearing that he would not be addressing the arguments he’d made in a previous filing that alleged extraditing Rittenhouse would violate his constitutional rights.
Man, I'm really wishing the best for this kid. But maybe they're trying to set a precedent with him.
One of those arguments turned on the contention that sending the teen to Wisconsin would violate his 14th Amendment due process rights because he would face a “legion of hazards” if put in adult jail. The filing also argued that extradition would violate his Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search or seizure, contending that the video shows “without a shadow of a doubt” he shot in self-defense.
During the hearing, however, Pierce focused entirely on a technical argument that the paperwork from Wisconsin didn’t meet the standard to return the teen. He said the documentation was insufficient because one Kenosha County prosecutor swore to the facts in the criminal complaint before another Kenosha prosecutor — rather than doing that before a magistrate.
“That is game, set, match, your honor,” Pierce said
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Police preparing to release the charges in the police shooting, while Family of a Kenosha protester shot dead by Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, and a man injured by the teen gunman will sue Wisconsin city for $20 million
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Don't see how it's the cities responsibility to pay for their demise. to look at it a different way, does the city pay millions to victims of gang shootings ? nope.Anthony Huber, 26, and Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, were shot dead by Rittenhouse during demonstrations over the police shooting of black man, Jacob Blake, in August of last year.
A third man, Gaige Grosskreutz, was also shot by Rittenhouse, but managed to survive.
Rittenhouse says he acted in self-defense as the protests descended into violence, but he is set to stand trial for murder later this year.
On Sunday, the family of Huber claimed that his death was the result of police negligence and filed a lawsuit seeking $10 million in damages.
The suit names the City and County of Kenosha, the Kenosha police chief, and the Kenosha County sheriff as defendants, according to TMJ.
On the same day, Grosskreutz also filed a suit against the city similarly alleging negligence and seeking $10 million in compensation.
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Re: Kenosha
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Re: Kenosha
Theater of the absurd...participate in a riot and then sue the city because you were shot by someone you were trying to kill when he stopped a burning dumpster from being pushed toward gas pumps...you can't make this stuff up.
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As expected, Kyle enters Not-Guilty plea, claims self defense.
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https://www.npr.org/2021/01/05/95359447 ... ll-charges" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Kyle Rittenhouse, the teen accused of shooting three people at a riot in Kenosha, Wis., over the summer, has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Rittenhouse, who was 17 at the time of the shootings, has argued he acted in self-defense.
The charges facing Rittenhouse include first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide and attempted first-degree intentional reckless homicide. An additional charge of violation of curfew the night of the shootings was added last week
A pretrial conference for Rittenhouse is scheduled for March 10.
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No charges on the police officer for the Kenosha shooting..
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The Kenosha police officer who shot Jacob Blake seven times in August will not be criminally charged, Kenosha County District Attorney Michael Graveley announced Tuesday.
The officer who fired the shots, Rusten Sheskey, could successfully argue self-defense before a jury because Blake had a knife, Graveley said during a Tuesday news conference. He also considered evidence that could not be seen on cellphone video of the incident, which showed Sheskey shooting Blake, 29, as he got into a vehicle with his children inside.
Blake admitted he had a knife, according to the prosecutor.
“All the discussion that he was unarmed contradicts what he himself has said to investigators,” Graveley said
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Charges dropped against shooter who first fired in the air during Kenosha incident.
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The only charge that remains is disorderly conduct; the felony recklessly endangering safety charge for firing the handgun will not proceed. Having to argue in one case that Ziminski fired the first shot that night might have proved embarrassing while trying to prosecute the Rittenhouse case, where their story is that Kyle started all the trouble. So Ziminski’s inconvenient gun charge has simply gone away.
Also an oddity in the Ziminski situation: the lack of any charges for possession of a firearm. Per a Wisconsin Right Now report, Ziminski has multiple convictions for violating harassment orders, which may make him a prohibited person for domestic violence. He also has a 2005 marijuana conviction which definitely gave him prohibited status.
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"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. . . Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
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Re: Kenosha
Not the best idea when you have an upcoming high-profile trial: https://nypost.com/2021/01/10/kyle-ritt ... f-k-shirt/
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Well at least the judge seems sane.. can't imagine the amount of hate towards this kid then having his address be publicly accessible.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/96703320 ... ittenhouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Prosecutors had asked Schroeder last week to issue a new arrest warrant and raise Rittenhouse's bail by $200,000, arguing that he violated conditions of his bond. They say he did not inform the court of his change of address.
Attorneys for Rittenhouse say that their client withheld his new address because of threats to his safety.
The judge agreed to keep the new address sealed and available only to certain members of the court moving forward, over protests from prosecutors.
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"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."
- Thomas Jefferson
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. . . Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
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Re: Kenosha
You have to wonder what the prosecutors' motivations are for wanting his address to be public record.Bruenor wrote:Well at least the judge seems sane.. can't imagine the amount of hate towards this kid then having his address be publicly accessible.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/96703320 ... ittenhouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Prosecutors had asked Schroeder last week to issue a new arrest warrant and raise Rittenhouse's bail by $200,000, arguing that he violated conditions of his bond. They say he did not inform the court of his change of address.
Attorneys for Rittenhouse say that their client withheld his new address because of threats to his safety.
The judge agreed to keep the new address sealed and available only to certain members of the court moving forward, over protests from prosecutors.
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Just my 2 cents, allowing the piling on of 'consequences' of Rittenhouse's actions.. - Who would want to defend themselves after seeing what one might have to go through after doing so.khufford wrote:You have to wonder what the prosecutors' motivations are for wanting his address to be public record.Bruenor wrote:Well at least the judge seems sane.. can't imagine the amount of hate towards this kid then having his address be publicly accessible.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/96703320 ... ittenhouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Prosecutors had asked Schroeder last week to issue a new arrest warrant and raise Rittenhouse's bail by $200,000, arguing that he violated conditions of his bond. They say he did not inform the court of his change of address.
Attorneys for Rittenhouse say that their client withheld his new address because of threats to his safety.
The judge agreed to keep the new address sealed and available only to certain members of the court moving forward, over protests from prosecutors.
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Hence, (IMHO) the whole point of the exercise.Just my 2 cents, allowing the piling on of 'consequences' of Rittenhouse's actions.. - Who would want to defend themselves after seeing what one might have to go through after doing so.
Don't need to legally eliminate a right if you can keep folks from attempting to exercise it by showing them they'll be ground to dust by the system.
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Everyone is reevaluating their need for some sort of self defense legal fund now, right ? whatever it may be... prepaid legal, Self defense legal fund, Self defense insurance (insurance can only pay AFTER you are found innocent, so won't help with your defense) .. food for thought.WayneB wrote:Hence, (IMHO) the whole point of the exercise.Just my 2 cents, allowing the piling on of 'consequences' of Rittenhouse's actions.. - Who would want to defend themselves after seeing what one might have to go through after doing so.
Don't need to legally eliminate a right if you can keep folks from attempting to exercise it by showing them they'll be ground to dust by the system.
Wonder how much Kyles' defense is going to cost in the long run. (I'm ignoring the 'should he have been there in the first place' aspect. I think we all know the answer to that question)
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Re: Kenosha
John Huber (yellow shirt), father of man killed by Kyle Rittenhouse, flips off Judge Schroeder after he denied the DA’s motions.
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