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Bar owner in Nebraska shoots rioter who attacked him

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James Scurlock, a 22-year-old black man, was killed Saturday after authorities said he tussled with the owner of two downtown bars. Surveillance video of the strip of bars shows a group of people, including Scurlock, approach white bar owner Jake Gardner.

Two people shove Gardner to the ground, and he fired shots in the air. Seconds later, Scurlock is seen jumping on Gardner, who then fires the gun over his shoulder, striking Scurlock.

Authorities have declined to press charges in the death, calling the shooting self-defense. But Gardner could still face misdemeanor gun charges because his concealed carry permit for the gun had expired, the police chief said.
I wonder if it was expired because he was unable to renew it because of the coronavirus?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_ ... s_Scurlock

The shooter was a bar owner trying to clear rioters from his bar. They had already broken windows, this was not a peaceful demonstration.

The black community is backing Scurlock, demanding the bar owner be charged. There is clear video showing he was on the ground after being tackled by two people who fled when the bar owner fired two rounds in the air. That's when Scurlock pounced on his back and started choking him. The bar owner can be heard saying "get off me" several times before shooting over his shoulder.

The black community is ruining their argument if they believe racism is an excuse for blacks to break windows...if that was black man who owned the bar, would their opinion be different. I can say mine would not. So who is racist?
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catfish86 wrote:So who is racist?
I've lived in white communities, black communities, suburbs, rural, and a very liberal college community. The only white racists I've found were liberals explaining why black people need white peoples' help. Many black people are racist against whites (and asians) - very openly.

Like many, at the beginning of this Floyd protest I had sympathy for the cause, specifically to reduce police corruption and violence (against all races). Now the symapthy gave way to disdain because "it's all about the black people!" and the looting/rioting/violence has soured the narrative.

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Initially ruled self-defense but now the DA caved and it is going to a grand jury. Also a case of it not paying to protect your business. Guy is losing the business because the landlord is being threatened over the incident so landlord ended the lease.

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This is scary. This goes to the foundation of the right to defend oneself. He was literally in the process of being attacked when he fire and at that point was being choked from behind.
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What's the plan after the bar owner is not charged?

Who in the local government is gonna cave, and, how?
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Update:
The grand jury rejected Jake Gardner’s claims that he acted in self-defense in the death of James Scurlock, charging him with four felonies: manslaughter, attempted first-degree assault, making terroristic threats and weapon use. If convicted, Gardner, 38, could face up to 95 years in prison.
“I can tell you that there is evidence that undermines (claims of self-defense),” Franklin said. “And that evidence comes primarily from Jake Gardner himself.”
Without getting into specifics, Franklin pointed to texts from Gardner’s phone; messages from Gardner’s Facebook account; and Gardner’s interactions with bystanders “prior to even coming in contact with James Scurlock.” Also: surveillance video that showed Gardner and his father, David Gardner, inside Gardner’s business that night.
https://omaha.com/news/local/crime-and- ... 5c51b.html


And then this story about how protesters had geared up to go cause trouble if they didn't get the indictments they wanted.

https://omaha.com/news/local/crime-and- ... 663e1.html
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In a stunning development, Jake Gardner — the white bar owner indicted in the killing of a 22-year-old Black man during protests in downtown Omaha on May 30 — has been found dead near Portland, Oregon.

Gardner shot himself after authorities in Hillsboro, Oregon, received a call of a suicidal party, said two law enforcement sources who spoke on condition of anonymity. The death happened this weekend, though Hillsboro police would not confirm the death or the time it happened.
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Ouch. My sympathies to the family. and a pox on the protesters who thought they could get "justice" by stampeding the court, police and others.
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Based on simply what's been reported so far I think he had a good chance of winning, he of course he would've gone through hell and probably lost his business merely defending himself in court. :(
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Such a very sad outcome for him, his family, and friends. The local prosecutor originally deemed it self defense. Then caved to charge him after the protests started. I won't comment on the hateful comments posted online from those taking great joy in his suicide. The kindest thing I can say is they are truly despicable people.
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"The indictment of Jake Gardner would never have happened without the community, the people, who stood up for justice and demanded action from city officials. Jake Gardner is gone, but the white supremacist attitudes that emboldened him are still with us today."

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That Nebraska senator is pathetic. At least she acknowledged the wrong of charging him but then throws in the Antifa propaganda by mentioning white supremacism. No evidence that he was but he "was emboldened". That means the rioters were justified because he was subhuman if you missed the translation.
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catfish86 wrote:That Nebraska senator is pathetic. At least she acknowledged the wrong of charging him but then throws in the Antifa propaganda by mentioning white supremacism. No evidence that he was but he "was emboldened". That means the rioters were justified because he was subhuman if you missed the translation.
Regarding the bolded, when or where did she say the indictment was wrong? I didn't see that.
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