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Colion Noir talking with Tracey Wilson, Vice President of Public Relations for the Canadian Coalition of Firearms Rights. Topic is "Why You Shouldn't Ignore The Fight For Canadian Gun Rights." You learn what it is like to be a gun owner in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nf5DoR8XoA


You would never mistake the CCFR for our GOA but this 1500 firearms ban has gotten CCFR to put together a court challenge to try to save their guns.
The CCFR, as the public relations and education branch of the Canadian firearms community, has not typically pursued litigation as a tool of changing legislation or steering public policy. As a result of this unprecedented attack on the freedom and liberty of Canadian sport shooters and hunters, that’s changing.
This issue gives rise to complicated arguments of constitutional law and the legislative process, however the arguments boiled down to this fundamental truth: the government, in an entirely arbitrary and irrational way, has created legislation that will deprive us of our property and our freedom to live as we wish, on pains of incarceration for failing to comply.

While we have assessed the legal technicalities of what they have done in great detail, the government is charged with passing legislation governing the nation and our options are not great. That said, when we took our analysis back to first principles, and the actual nature of our complaint, it became quite simple: we believe that this is a wrongful deprivation of liberty arising from an improper exercise of legislative power.
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And now Canada is going after Star Wars blasters. :(
A restaurant employee in a “Star Wars” costume was detained in Canada on Sunday after 911 callers reported seeing someone in a Stormtrooper costume with a gun, police said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/stor ... a-n1201696

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeYfHSarBiQ
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RCMP Still hiding info on this incident.. the guy is dead.. not sure what would still need to be secretive about this incident.

What RCMP and the Crown aren’t telling us: Redactions in Nova Scotia mass shooting court documents raise eyebrows
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Before a search warrant document related to the Nova Scotia mass shooting was released to reporters Tuesday, sections of it were redacted by Crown prosecutors in consultation with the RCMP, including details about the firearms the shooter used.

At the top of the 40-page document, investigators list the various items they expect to find at Gabriel Wortman’s properties. The list includes firearms, ammunition, explosives and chemicals. But a fifth item is blacked out
Later in the document, an investigator writes that rifles and pistols were found in Wortman’s vehicle when he was gunned down by police. But other details are blacked out, including the source of the weapons.

“Why can the public not know what firearms this individual had in their possession, as well as how that individual went about purchasing those firearms?” Holman asked, noting that such information is important to know because it could speak to gaps in firearms policies.
“Regardless of however you feel about these redactions, it’s important to question them because if we simply let redactions be the order of the day — become normalized and become accepted — then we are headed to an even more secretive society,” he said.

The unsealing of other court documents is expected in the coming days.
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The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I would hope this becomes the one step too far for gun control and the average Canadian concludes this must not stand.
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The FRT list of the classifications of firearms in Canada is being update daily to add to the banned list. Here are a few highlights.

Now on the Banned list.

Ruger No. 1 in .460 Weatherby Magnum Single shot rifle - bore larger than 20 millimeters and/or with a muzzle energy greater than 10,000 joules
Weatherby Mark V in .460 weatherby Magnum Bolt action rifle - bore larger than 20 millimeters and/or with a muzzle energy greater than 10,000 joules
Mossberg 715T - AR15 Derivative (a Mossberg 702 Plinkster all dressed up uses same magazines)
Iver Johnson Enforcer 3000
Mossberg 715T Duck Commander - Externally resembles AR15 Rifle
Mossberg Plinkster 702 Tactical
Tomahawk PA-22 Pump Action ShotgunAR15 Derivative
Uzcon BR99 Semi-auto Shotgun
Derya VR90 - 12ga semi-auto Shotgun - AR15 variant
Remington 870 - with barrel less than 300 mm (11.8 inches)
Mossberg 590 - with barrel less than 300 mm (11.8 inches)



But these are still good to go ! (May change at any time.. probably tomorrow )
Derya-mk10 12 guage semi auto shotgun (not a AR15 variant)
tristar KRX 12 guage semi auto shotgun
Norinko Type 81 semi-auto (cross between SKS and AK47)
Valmut Hunter - Still good !!
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Gotta get rid of those scary looking pump-action shotguns. :roll:
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Can we still buy the Black Rifle Coffee?
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Have been meaning to post an update. Heard Joe Rogan mention this case late last month. The shooter withdrew $475,000. Apparently in Canada, even if you have that much $, you are not allowed to withdraw it unless you are somehow tied to the police. So, there is rampant speculation that the shooter had police ties and that is why the Mounties did not quickly deal with him. What really happened is tough to figure out since the government is still not talking. A judge will decide on July 16th whether info contained in some warrants will be released to the public.
Crown blocks access to case documents amid report Nova Scotia mass shooter was RCMP informant

Speculation abounds and a legal can of worms has been opened after a report published in Maclean’s claiming gunman Gabriel Wortman had criminal connections and may have been in the employ of the RCMP
https://nowtoronto.com/news/nova-scotia ... el-wortman
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks

This does have a blow by blow description of the events. This could not happen in the USA in the way it did in Canada. This guy went around pretty much knowing there was no likelihood that anyone other than himself even owned guns or could readily access them. The Canadian government decides to make sure that nobody else could possibly be armed.

The rampage started about 10pm with police immediately being notified but no warnings went out until 8am the next morning.

Smells of Las Vegas where police protected the integrity of their investigation by avoiding release of body cams of police officers in the hallway "setting up a perimeter" as the shooter shot at will into a crowd below.
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